Michael Tan’s Opinion column on the “World’s Best Universities” which he based on the Times Higher Education Supplement-Quacquarelli Symonds (THES-QS) World University Rankings provided so many insights on the state of Philippine Education . I’m glad to see that the universities of my two girls made it to the top 500 , including two other universities. We can’t compare the Philippines to America, Australia or the UK. Harvard is the number 1 school followed by Cambridge. But take look at Indonesia, a country less developed than the Philippines. It had three universities, all state-run, beating us in rankings
Let’s look at how the Philippines did. The University of the Philippines (UP) came in 299th globally and 47th among Asian universities. I have to say that’s not too bad, considering how UP has had to plod along with shrinking budgets and with the flight of so many good professors. Trailing behind UP were three private universities: De La Salle (392nd), Ateneo de Manila (484th) and, talk about a photo finish, the University of Santo Tomas at 500th.
With slashed budget from our government, it’s surprising that the state university is still alive and kicking. When I brought M around the UP campus as an incoming freshman, I was appalled at Palma Hall’s old chairs, broken windows, and dirty walls. It was as if they had not done any cosmetic renovation since I graduated over 30 years ago. I was confident that UP had dedicated professors inspite of the decrepit state of some classrooms. In the beginning, M’s heart was really not into the state university. She wanted to join her eldest sister at Ateneo. I insisted that UP is the better school and for economic reasons, it was the better option than Ateneo. I convinced her that her maternal grandmother was one of the pioneer students of the UP Diliman Campus. It was my mother’s legacy to pass on the values and great education that UP had to offer. After much tears and several arguments, she relented. Today , M is full of gratitude that she chose UP.
Now what about Ateneo? L is not too happy with Ateneo not because of the education but on the student mix. I’d rather not discuss that here because that is her personal opinion. As a parent, I’m not completely satisfied if the tuition fee investment is worth it. This is just one example. Ateneo does not have computerized or online registration. Maybe they had years ago but today, it does not exist. I know UP and La Salle has, and even the university where my husband is connected. Ateneans have to queue based on their random number on their scheduled day. Not only that , they have to go to the Ateneo campus to retrieve their grades. I know I am comparing UP and Ateneo but still, compare the semestral UP tuition of 7,000 pesos ($140) versus Ateneo’s 55,000 pesos ($1,100). As to the quality of education, I believe M gets a better deal compared to L. Education is not all about academics and campus activities. (*edit November 7-The latter sentence was misunderstood by an Atenean loyalist I think. What I meant in the last sentence was that the heterogenous campus mix in UP gives M a distinct advantage over L’s Ateneo’s student population. See first sentence of this paragraph. )
UP is still among the world’s best, but if we worked harder on the entire educational system, we should have more reason to be proud. Ultimately, we should be able to look at these university rankings as indicators of our current development strategies, as well as predictors of the country’s future.
Edit (November 21,2007) Based on the current Times Higher Education Supplement and QS Top Universities survey, only 2 universities in the Philippines make it to the top 500
1. UP drops from rank 299 to 398.
2. Ateneo now outranks La Salle taking the 451th rank
3. La Salle is not in the top 500 (now at 519)
4. UST drops out of the top 500 and is now at 535
Also read Low rankings for RP universities
UP, meanwhile, has not been giving data to THES-QS survey for two years, said Jose Wendell P. Capili, associate dean for academic affairs of the College of Arts and Letters, and yet it continues to rank. While something to crow about, there is a sense in UP that it’s still better than a number of universities on the THES-QS list. Many UP officials also feel the ranking is skewed toward schools with money, and that it does not have emphasis for fields such as arts and the humanities, Mr. Capili said.
But UP economist Solita C. Monsod said Philippine universities should treat the rankings as a “wake-up call.”
“[We should not have this] false sense of righteousness … everybody is being compared to everybody,” she told BusinessWorld.
Local universities should also not take offense that others in the region have a higher rank, because “it is what it is.” At least, the global rankings are a “consistent benchmark,” Ms. Monsod said.
October 26th, 2006 at 9:51 pm
thank God, among Philippine universities, UP is still the number one. well, i give my gratitude to the professors who, despite the offer of a greener pasture, did not join the exodus of state university professors to private academic institutions.
i did not know that ateneo does not have an on-line registration. fortunately, UP Manila has an on-line registration process with guaranteed slots.
i was also considering of going to the ateneo but who would not reconsider the cornucopia of money we would save.
well, at least, the unreasonable school requirements espoused by the chronic cramming of UP students paid off. (maybe not all students) harhar
October 27th, 2006 at 5:00 am
Hi,
My husband and his brothers being green-blooded, the default choice for my daughter’s university was DLSU, and she didn’t offer resistance to that. I did though because I thought Q.C. is such a far distance from Taft. Three years down the line, my daughter is happily working her Lit course, and has no regrets at all in being green.
October 27th, 2006 at 7:51 am
@aaron- it’s my number one too because it’s the alma mater of my mother, and my siblings except for one brother who went to Ateneo. That’s where I met my ex-boyfriend, now my husband
My daughter is a third generation UP student.
@poppycock- It’s opposite for me. We live closer to La Salle but L chose Ateneo.
November 7th, 2006 at 11:41 pm
Hi!
Sorry if I’m aggravating anyone by posting this comment. But I must disagree.
Though there is an extremely wide gap between the tuition fees of the two schools, UP and Ateneo, the per student-per unit spending is of a comparable amount. The only reason why tuition in UP is cheaper is because it is subsidized by the government. In short, money from the nation’s pocket.
The big difference is that Ateneo students shoulder the whole of their education, unlike UP students.
And just something on the side: wouldn’t it be shameful is a private university outranked the more prestigious state university? Just food for thought.
And about this: “Education is not all about academics and campus activities.” If not, then what is it about. Computerized registration?
And the Ateneo has computerized registration, for your information. We just don’t get to do it at home for very logical reasons.
That’s all. Good luck with this blog of yours.
November 8th, 2006 at 12:14 am
!@martin- what about La Salle? it has comparable tuition with Ateneo, right? It is shameful that Ateneo’s facilties are below par compared to La Salle. No wonder Ateneo ranked lower than La Salle.
and about ” “Education is not all about academics and campus activities.”
I was not talking about computerized registration. What I meant in the last sentence was that the heterogenous campus mix in UP gives M a distinct advantage over L’s Ateneo’s student population. See first sentence of this paragraph. Majority of the Atenean students belong to middle or upper middle class. L’s exposure is limited inspite of their sc-called “immersion program”
November 8th, 2006 at 12:40 am
tita noemi:
Yes, they do. Actually, my brother goes to La Salle.
But there is controversy over the use of those facilities. And oh, I’m sure you’ve heard of their new ‘building.’ I guess it depends on the spending priorities of each university. In UP’s case, chairs and windows don’t seem to be too important. And for us in Ateneo, a majority of classrooms don’t even have air-conditioning.
Anyway, to leave all the this-school-is-better-than-that-school-even-though-this-school-has-lower-tuition argument, I think it is important to ask where the problem lies really?
Is it the government at fault? And if it is, what should be done.
Something more:
Yes, you could say that I am a loyal Atenean. I friggin’ love the school. It is the most prestigious. I’m not sure if it is the best, but I believe it is the most prestigious in the country.
And I don’t know with that student population thing. Some say that the extremes of the student population in UP is a disadvantage. But personally, it is an experience I’d like to have.
And last, I chanced upon your blog when I searched for the UP Tuition Raise Issue in the internet. That thing with the 300% tuition fee increase.
That’s all.
November 11th, 2006 at 11:46 pm
Magandang araw. Hindi ako galit at pabor sa mga nabanggit na
paaralan ng ating mga bloggers, pero sumasangayon ako sa mga
ilang nabanggit ni martin. Ang UP pinopondohan ng gobyerno kaya nga mura ang tuition nila. Hindi katulad ng DLSU at ADMU na pera ng mga estudyante o ng pamilya nila ang pang tuition. Sagot rin po ng gobyerno ang kuryente, tubig, at telepono ng UP.
Nais ko rin pong malaman kung nalibot na ninyo ang buong Ateneo at La Salle upang sabihin ninyo na mas maganda ang La Salle sa mga imprastraktura kaysa sa Ateneo? Maganda po ang La Salle dahil nakita ko na ito, mayroon silang mga pasilidad na wala sa Ateneo, ngunit ganoon din po ang Ateneo. Mayroon sila na wala sa La Salle. Hindi ninyo naman po puwedeng ikumpara ang hindi pa ninyo GANAP na nalilibot na lugar sa isa pa. Gusto ko rin pong sabihin na iba ibang bildings ang ginagamit ng mga estudyante para sa kurso nila. Katulad ng Liberal Arts ng La Salle sa Yuchengco Hall at Management ng Ateneo sa JGSOM bldg. Baka po kasi iba ang kurso at bilding ni L. at iyun lang po ang naging basehan ninyo.
Naniniwala po ako na mas mayaman ang UP sa admu at dlsu dahil nga galing sa bulsa ng mga taong nagbabayadng taxes ang panggastos nila. At ang mga salaping ito ang ginagamit ng DepEd para tustusan ang UP. Nakakabagbag-damdaming isipin na hindi balanse ang pag pondo ng DepEd sa mga public schools.
“Education is not all about academics…” Gusto ko pong malaman kung ano ang edukasyon para sa inyo? Iyon lang po.
November 12th, 2006 at 12:54 am
@Miguel- for the sake of my global readers, I will reply in English. I have toured both Ateneo and La Salle. La Salle and Ateneo has its own niche or specialty. . La Salle seems to be excellent in IT and finance while Ateneo is strong in the Arts, and management. UP is strong in most courses. My opinion is based on my personal experience n or my daughter’s experience. After all this is my blog. I cannot speak for others. I am not the expert on college education. I talk based on my experience and perception . I am not an authority of college education. My entry is not the gospel truth. Other parents have their own opinion. I hope you can discern the difference of this blog entry and a research on top universities. REPEAT: my blog is just a commentary on the article, TOP 500 universities in the world. Get it?
Education is not limited in the classrooms . We learn from our classmates and our teachers outside the classroom experience. With the heterogenous mix of UP students, one has more exposure to the real world compared to Ateneo students. It is a known fact that 90% of Ateneans are in the middle to upper middle class income.
November 13th, 2006 at 12:26 am
I’m proud I chose the University of the Philippines over other universities.
I graduated from the UP College of Business Administration some four years back and now I’m residing in Chicago. I’ve always wanted to finish an MBA course in the states and because my family is here in Illinois, I just chose the nearest most prestigious university instead of going to pennsylvania for wharton or to massachusetts for harvard…
The University of Chicago had been a consistent TOP 10 university in the world. When I applied last year for my MBA, I was really surprised that the university only credits/considers undergraduate degrees from only one university from the philippines; the University of the Philippines Diliman.
I could never claim that UP is the best just because of this instance. I’m just happy I made the right choice back then.
Now, just one more year to go, and I would finish my MBA here. I plan to go back to my beloved home, Pilipinas and expand my business that my wife and I started here in the states. Also, I want to teach in UP part time. I would never forget what my business policy professor told me (Dr. Manuel Alba - former budget minister of the philippines), “So, you are proud because you are a UP student? Just imagine what UP professors feel about themselves.”
December 14th, 2006 at 6:24 am
Hi Noemi. I have been reading your very interesting blog…
Yes its really disappointing that the Philippines top universities are ranked lower than Indonesia which was very behind the Philippines 35 years ago…however the truth is the Philippines is so much behind Indonesia now in terms of progress and economic prosperity; and that is proven by the many highly educated Filipino professionals who are now living and working in Jakarta. Most of these highly paid professionals are employed by the biggest oil companies in the world and multinational companies, and many are also teachers in local schools or international schools based in Jakarta…even the teachers are highly paid and in U.S. dollars so they are all able to enjoy a quality of life which they won’t be able to in Manila. my brother who is a MBA graduate of AIM in Manila has been working for the second biggest conglomerate (an oil company) in Jakarta for 10 years now, and during his yearly visits to Manila with his family, he has seen the differences and how much progress Indonesia has really gone through the years… it’s really sad but that’s reality which I believe not many Filipinos are aware of… the Philippines cannot even compete with Indonesia which is an oil producing country and which has really surpassed our country for the past 2 decades. that is the reason why so many of the highly educated professionals end up working there enjoying a better quality of life with all the amenities of expat living.
January 8th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
I personally think that the THES-QS TOP University list is about biases and popularity. They also arbitrarily put Australian and British universities far more than it deserves. And, who are the people voting and rating the surveys? Those who are from the Western Universities. Biases will always be there. If I were from University of Oxford, of course, I would prefer to give a better rating that Kyoto University.
There are also indicators in the list that should no longer be considered - like the proportion of international faculty and international students. Is this necessary in the list? I don’t think so. I don’t believe that having a great number of faculty members or students from oversease would make a university a good one. There are schools in the Philippines that do not accept international students… they should also take into account other universities in the Philippines…
And, what about the graduate employability? Do they have the statistics that actually reflects the number of graduates in relation to their marketability? Again, if I were a businessman from Harvard, I would think that more Harvard graduates would get the job than the graduates of University of California…
The indicators and the way the methods are done primarily reflect the opinion of the respondents - who are actually Americans, Australians and Britons - who would vote in favor of their universities.
On the other hand, in the Academic Rankings of the World 2006 by a Chinese University, NOT EVEN ONE Philippine university made it to the list… How sad!!!
January 8th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
I personally think that the THES-QS TOP University list is about biases and popularity. They also arbitrarily put Australian and British universities far more than it deserves. And, who are the people voting and rating the surveys? Those who are from the Western Universities. Biases will always be there. If I were from University of Oxford, of course, I would prefer to give a better rating to University of Oxford than that of Kyoto University.
There are also indicators in the list that should no longer be considered - like the proportion of international faculty and international students. Is this necessary in the list? I don’t think so. I don’t believe that having a great number of faculty members or students from oversease would make a university a good one. There are schools in the Philippines that do not accept international students… they should also take into account other universities in the Philippines…
And, what about the graduate employability? Do they have the statistics that actually reflects the number of graduates in relation to their marketability? Again, if I were a businessman from Harvard, I would think that more Harvard graduates would get the job than the graduates of University of California…
The indicators and the way the methods are done primarily reflect the opinion of the respondents - who are actually Americans, Australians and Britons - who would vote in favor of their universities.
On the other hand, in the Academic Rankings of the World 2006 by a Chinese University, NOT EVEN ONE Philippine university made it to the list… How sad!!!
January 8th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
In the Philippines, we regard Ateneo as one of the top universities… in what area or field? I only know one or two field they are good at, and that is LAW and PHILOSOPHY… will these two things be good enough to consider them a top university?
DLSU is good at Engineering and some Sciences.
PLM is good at Medicine, Nursing, Physical Therapy, Accountancy, Social Work.
PUP and FEU are both OK.
UST is good at Pharmacy, Medicine, Nursing, Architecture and Physical Therapy.
Of couse, UP is the best so far… it has the biggest budget of all universities and it performs well in most licensure exams.
January 9th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
Each school has its own strengths and weakness.
And on the issue of other countries getting ahead of Philippines, I found out this morning that our beloved nation is not the largest English-speaking country in Asia anymore. We are now behind India. Thus, making us the 4th largest English-speaking nation in the world.
OMG. What’s been happening to the Philippines?
January 20th, 2007 at 10:55 pm
Kahit san school kapa, importante maka-graduate! Tapos! Overratted ang UP, La salle at Ateneo. Hindi naman lahat ng galing diyan magagaling. Kasi ako galing nang Mcgill University ha! Loko lang!
January 24th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
As a student from DLSU. It is sad to hear that many people think that DLSU is only ranked higher than Ateneo among private universities because of the greater availability of facilities. La salle deserves that spot not just because of its sophisticated learning and campus equipment, it is because of the better availability of courses offered to its students. An example is the engineering departement of La salle which ranks superb against what Ateneo has. Another course offering is Accounting which Ateneo doesn’t offer. There are many more to mention. I sincerely believe that UP is the leading university in the country (Base on what I conclude from SURVEYS and OPINIONS of OTHERS). It could have increased its ranking further if only the government would properly allocate funds for the recreation of the school grounds. But unfortunately knowing the Philippine political system, it is hard to expect.
January 30th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
im so sorry… but hello!!!!! we rank so behind!!! we are supposed to be a great nation… you are stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 13th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Hello to all the bloggers! Actually, i will not comment on anything, knowing that i haven’t experienced what “university life” is yet. I’m a graduating high school student this year and I do need your thoughts because, right now, i’m having second thoughts on which university to pursue. I got accepted at UST(bspsych&acct.) and ADMU(abpsych). And reading the rest of your blogs, its very easy to get confused. you all had some valuable things to say that left me thinking again and again. God bless to all of you and thank you for taking time to read my blog.
P.S. my mom wants me to pursue Ateneo. she said that Ateneo students stand out everywhere because of high standards of education
February 16th, 2007 at 11:53 am
—> “THE HARVARD OF THE PHILIPPINES”– these are the words rightful for the ATENEO…. for it is the most prestigious and (against all odds) probably the best university here in the Philippines. WHY? because of its characteristics very distinct from other universities like UP and DLSU…. in the first place, Ateneans need not to debate on this matter for ATENEO gives what’s best and what’s right for its students…. ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE, VALUE FORMATION, EXTERNAL LINKAGES, COMPETENCE AMONG FELLOW UNIVERSITIES.. name it and ATENEO has it… maybe.. UP performs better than ateneo in terms of academic rankings, but in truth, UP does not inculcate in its student the values essential to this society… they tolerate their students’ liberalism which often lead to their what-they-say as “radicalism”.. UP failed on this matter.. so what will happen to our country if all of its intellectual graduates (who sooner or later will be our political leaders)are radical?? try to think… and ONE THING MORE!! Entering UP system is not that difficult at all. Why?? sometimes students just choose NON-QUOTA COURSES and eventually SHIFT to the courses they want… unlike the ATENEO that requires you to beat the BEST OF THE BEST FROM ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE COUNRTY, just to enter in their university…. Now DLSU, on the other hand, is nothing compared to ATENEO.. they usuallly boast their STATE-OF-THE-ART Facilities but i’m not convinced on the way they form their students intellectually and behaviorally.. their students, most of the times, get too boastful!! I get so IRRITATED with them… and i know some cases that they actually acquire students that are not as competitive as the Ateneans; for, they tend to easily give-in to “RECONSIDERATIONS” to those students who failed in their exams.. i know i’m not in the “college life” yet but i think i’ve weighted schools quite enough and i’ve research enough to say that i,indeed, have a heart to the ATENEO.. i’nm sorry if i had to express my opinions against la salle and up… but i’m just driven by my emotions to the different comments and the article itself. that’s why i seem not to pursue my pol. sci course in UP for i tend to be radical on my opinions and actions…
… maybe i still have a lot to debate in my mind… i have worries about picking the wrong university for me… 75% of my decision goes with ADMU while the other 25% is brought by the influences of the outside forces telling me to go to UP, DLSU-M, UST, DLSU-D, and UA&P… Damn.. i’m really confused..
February 16th, 2007 at 9:21 pm
arellano university is the best…
February 18th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
@lei- choose UP. If your course is Psych, UP does a lot of pioneering research.
February 18th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
I’m also a graduating high scool student this year. As of now, I’m still confused on what university to go to. I was accepted at ADMU(BS legal management),UP(BS bio),UST(BS nursing),siliman(BS med tech), and Southville foriegn colleges(BS International business, BS International marketing)… After reading this blog, i got more confused!!
Everyone i ask tells me to go to ADMU.. They say it’s the best and that i will have no problem in finding a job when i graduate there…
Anyway, i still have a few more weeks to decide.. I will surely consider everything i have read here…
February 18th, 2007 at 8:37 pm
What course do you really like, RK? If your heart is in BS Bio, then go to UP . Then Legal Management , take it in Ateneo. It’s a matter of the course too.
February 21st, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Bam said:
Each school has its own strengths and weakness.
And on the issue of other countries getting ahead of Philippines, I found out this morning that our beloved nation is not the largest English-speaking country in Asia anymore. We are now behind India. Thus, making us the 4th largest English-speaking nation in the world.
OMG. What’s been happening to the Philippines?
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Ridiculous. India has more than a billion people. Theyve always had more English speakers (being a British Colony and all) than us. Complaints and rants like this confirm how low we’ve sunk.
February 25th, 2007 at 5:53 pm
STILL UNDECIDED… I NEED HELP….
i am a highschool senior, i am confused with what school i’ll be entering in my tertiary life..
here’s my choices.. pls help me…
i passed..
UP Diliman- b.a political sci.
ADMU- ab-ma poli. sci (honors program)
DLSU-M - bs legal mgt.
UST - poli sci
UA&p - ab-ma political economy
DLSU- ab poli sci….
i’m asking for all your opinions…
okay i’ll explain my situation…
i passed up and la salle, i belong to the top 15% of Ateneo..
i am among the top 100 passers of USt, i am among the top exminees at ua&p… now… my scholarship was denied in Ateneo and i was devastated for i can’t afford to study there eventhough i regarded admu as my dream school.. UP system has increased about 300% of its tuition.. but the University of asia and the pacific granted me the merit scholarship which covers 100% tution and misc. fees and all.. i have nothing to pay.. but the deadline for the scholarship agreement is feb 26 and that’s freakin’ close!!! i don’t want that schlrshp be put into waste but i can’t afford losing ateneo.. i also have financial prob so i can’t just choose any of the schools… please… help me… decide
February 25th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
lei: Go to UP, you won’t regret it. ;p
February 25th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
benj is right. Go to UP, lei!
February 25th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Go UP. I am sure they have financial aid. Just show your Income Tax Return of your parents. Though UP increased tuition, it’s still way below Ateneo. If I am not mistake, 25,000 pesos per semester. Ateneo is at least 52,000 a semester. You are so blessed to have passed all the best schools. Still UP is the best.
My daughter who is now in second year UP BA Psych cried when I told her I couldn’t afford Ateneo. I told her to study at UP since it is a quality school anyway. She often tells me that she is happy she chose UP.
February 26th, 2007 at 12:01 am
the UP culture is really different though. I went to a UP-run high school so the transition wasn’t that shocking, but I’ve seen people from public schools whose heads really spin once they see the demographics.
February 26th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
thanks for all the adivices… but would i spend 25 thou for
UP, if i already have a full scholarship in UA&P including the misc. and all???…
March 2nd, 2007 at 5:18 am
As an HR practitioner, I believe that graduates of UP,ADMU,DLSU and UST easily get employed. However, choosing the right course for college really depends on your values and plans in the future. If you feel like migrating to the US or Canada, the best thing to do is take a Nursing course. Between UP and UST, the latter is better. If you feel like migrating in the US or Canada for broad reasons, take any course in UP. You see, it all depends on your values.
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:47 pm
“???”
March 5th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
To everyone here: be careful of what you say for you may ruin your own school. My point? My point is by having such comparisons, we are implying that we’ve learned from our schools that the benefit of education solely depends on one’s school. Think about those who don’t have the opportunity to study. All they want is to finish even though it means getting through an unpopular college.
Honestly, I’m quite sick of all these comparisons. Don’t ask me where I had come from. I can just tell you that I’m from one of those schools being compared with each other. People never really see the bigger picture here. We go to college for our future. Isn’t it enough that we are gifted with such benefits? Are we implying that we are greedy for such honor? That we want more and more for ourselves?
March 12th, 2007 at 11:45 am
i lyk ur point light!
come to think of it, college education in a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY like the Philippines is no longer a right but a Privilege. So why become honour-greedy?!
Ateneo, La Salle, and UST are all Catholic schools. Did Catholicism teach us about giving God thanks to what we have?
to the UP students, haven’t your professors thought you that you have a big responsibility over all of these priviliges the State is giving you?!
even though i aint a student of any of these prestigious schools, i am happy that i am able to go to school. and i am proud that a will be graduating in april 20, as a reciprocated all the sacrifices my parents have done by doing what is expected of me as a student.
i will just stress this out: it is not the school where you took that program, but how you behave while you were still a student! Success considers background , but greatly depends on the ability of the person to adopt!!!!
March 19th, 2007 at 3:55 am
There are probably more english-speaking indians because of their population but believe me PINOYS are better. I can assure you that if you had a chance to work with them, you’ll know what I mean!!!
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I am a proud Engineer from DLSU but even if I graduated from DLSU, I feel bad that the Phil education system is not recognize anywhere else (except nurses bec they can work as nurses). I really hope that the educational system in the Philippines will be improved and will be comparable with other nations. Imagine, our highschool grads cannot even enter universities abroad because we only have 10 years of primary and secondary educ. This is why we were behind other nations. I know some people who studied abroad - they have to enroll in college for two years before they can pursue their studies in other countries or like the rich ones, they study in an international school. I tell you, whether you are graduate of UP, La Salle or Ateneo, the international community does not recognize our graduates especially engineers. I was just lucky to be able to work as an engineer because of my experience but believe me my rates are way below than those who studied in other countries.
March 19th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
HI everyone!
I’m also confused regarding what university to choose…
I passed:
UP Diliman - BS Psych
ADMU - AB Comm
DLSU - AB OCM
UST - BS Psych and AB Behavioral Science
Actually, I’m down between UP and Ateneo.
Passing in UP Diliman is definitely laborious because of the UPCAT but I can’t deny that ADMU is also not permeable when it comes to choosing students.
But here are some scenarios…
The gov’t withdtrawn its state subsidy to UP, thus forcing UP
increase its tuition to 300%.
ADMU gave me a 100% scholarship.
Oh no… I’m having a headache… (sigh)
Please help me to choose the best choice.
March 20th, 2007 at 2:49 am
Mark: Pick in terms of the course. A good student will be a good student as long as he/she goes to a competent school (Id like to think that all four schools that you mentioned are good). AB COMM and BS PSYCH are two totally different fields. Most Psych grads find themselves going to Medicine after graduation.
had a well-written article regarding UP. Let’s face it, we all know that UP is great, but sometimes, people exaggerate and get carried away.
March 20th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
Thanks for the great advice…
But… will I evade ADMU’s lucrative offer?
Imagine! I’ll be saving almost 150thou per year…
March 20th, 2007 at 6:57 pm
Mark: If I were in your shoes, I’d choose the course that I’d really like to study. The choice of degree will have a lifetime impact. Do you want to regret the course you studied for the rest of life? I know a lot people (including myself) who think we should have taken another course.
If you can pay the fees skip the scholarship. The savings seem a lot because you were calculating based on ADMU’s tuition fee rates. Think about this, if you to go ADMU, you’ll need to maintain your scholarship. Granted that you are smart enough to keep it, still there will always be a chance to lose it, you may not end up saving in the end.
Hope this helps! =)
March 21st, 2007 at 10:22 am
Thanks a lot for those who helped!!!
You made me one step closer to the best decision…
March 25th, 2007 at 10:54 am
@mark-just follow your heart… there is no best school… but there is the best school for you…. as for me, i turned down UA&p’s scholarship offer and their stipends and dorm lodging and everything.. just to study in the Ateneo…. we are lucky to have this privilege… enjoy tertiary life… =)
April 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
The surevey is a hoax. data are inaccurate. UP, Ateneo and UST could have ranked higher if the information sent was accurate and fair. kudos to up dlsu ateneo and ust
April 14th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Go on and bicker…UST is still the best for me…It’s a mix of all types of people…Walang inferior/superior factor unlike with DLSU and ADMU…It’s just plain fun…hahaha…:)
April 25th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Hi, good day
I think the reason why UP is just ranked 299th in the world is because the organization who conducted the survey also considered the facilities of each universities together with the quality of graduates, number of research and thesis produced
and of course the number of professors in that particular University. And we know that even if UP is being subsidized by
the State,still our budget is not even comparable to that of
Ateneo or Lasalle. That explains why Ateneo and LaSalle have better facilities.
So maybe the general ranking of UP went down because of its facilities. But we may concede that the kind and amount of facilities that a University have should not be equated to the quality of education given by the University.
UP could have a higher rank if it just have the same kind of facilities that Ateneo and Lasalle have ( sige na nga UST na
din).
Just my idea..
May 19th, 2007 at 1:31 am
guys!! wag kaung mgtalo!!! im a proud Thomasian,,but i must have to accept that UP,Ateneo and Lasalle surpass and leading our way… The overall ranking was.. UP,LASALLE,ATENEO,UST… cut behind the rest… but in terms of licensure examinations… UP,UST,LASALLE,ATENEO… UP has the most number of courses(330) while UST has (188) Lasalle (77) and ATENEO (53).. SEE??
May 23rd, 2007 at 9:28 am
GUys!Base on my experiences everything is depedns on the students, what type of students,ya if you got a good teacher and facilities then its a resources to make learning easy but everything on the students, as a students you must invest hardworks if you want to succeed…schools only is a guidance fro your future…If the students really want to become an Engineer for example then he must invest for it…guys today its a information age, you can find information on the web already…anyway I am from La Salle also, BS Coe…:)
May 28th, 2007 at 5:07 pm
i just read all the bickering here. now i’m suffering from a headache.
i think it’s a normal to defend to their own alma maters but not to the point where the other schools get bashed. we shouldn’t compare. after all, each school has their own fortes.
i’m from a UP highschool and i studied in UPD for 2 years—before transferring to the ADMU. please don’t give me the ‘you’re-crazy-why-the-heck-would-you-do-that’ speech because i’ve already received loads of it. i have fellow ADMU transferees from UP as well.
i won’t say the reason why i did such thing, but it just goes to show that people have their own preferences and that we shouldn’t be blinded by the popularity of the schools. we shouldn’t choose a school solely because other people label them as the best. we should also consider our education (the course that we’re going to take) and more importantly, if we’re going to be happy during our four-year stay in that school.
last thing. graduates of these top universities who are lazy and with no knowledge on how to “handle” things, are most likely to be beaten by graduates in “so-so” universities who are hardworking and “may diskarte sa buhay”. but that’s just my opinion.
June 13th, 2007 at 4:41 am
hey amy, i too have a couple of friends who transferred from u.p. to ateneo.
took the ateneo exam in ‘96 but went to study in the states. then came to the philippines in ‘97 and went to ateneo (didn’t take the entrance exam anymore again since they said i was a merit scholar in the ‘96 exam).
was ateneo all that great? well, i honestly believe that i learned more reading books and magazines and newspapers in the rizal library than in any of my classes. would it be any different if i went to u.p. or la salle or u.s.t. for example? i doubt it.
i’m not saying ateneo sucks or philippine schools sucks. it’s just that the philippine educational culture focuses more on theory and memorization rather that practice and application. it a shame that the system generally rewards people who memorizes what they don’t understand and punishes those that understands what they did not memorize.
another thing, boredom. most of my classes in ateneo were boring as hell, save for p.e. class perhaps. i don’t know why they have to make it so boring and uninteresting. only a few professors are even worth paying attention too, and they are all in the philosphy field. i agree 100% with fritz redl when he said “boredom will always remain the greatest enemy of school disciplines.”
in contrast, i studied a year in the states and i was actually excited going to class everyday. most classes were like watching discovery channel (which by the way is a favorite of mine). my chemistry professor dr. wallace worked part time (sometimes even during our lab class) as like the c.s.i. lab dude for the police. we were also the first batch required to bring our own laptop to computer class so it was cool. government class was i think the only boring class i had there so i always just leave a tape-recorder with my 40-year-old classmate (i was the youngest in that class because i chose a night class to free up my whole friday for gimik time) so he can record the whole class for me.
sorry for all the kwento. just reminiscing. anyways, i am a firm believer in the notion that one makes his own education, not a particular school or college. and i believe you have to be really interested in what you are studying to make college education work for you. i think c. wright mills’s quote sums up what i’m trying to get at: “the aim of the college, for the individual student, is to eliminate the need in his life for the college; the task is to help him become a self-educating man.”
good luck to everyone.
June 13th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
im a UP student.. but i will transfer to NTU.. ano ba yan.. mas maganda pa ang quality ng education ng taiwan sa pilipinas.. im not yet decided naman.. pinagpipilian pa ang national taiwan university, seoul national university o university of wollongong in australia..
June 18th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
feu! daming chicks!
July 4th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
UP talaga eh.
July 20th, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Hello people! I’m a Mombugakesho Scholar in Japan. I am well aware that UP and other big universities in the country didnt rank well and by reading all the related blogs you seem to be knowledgeable of the reasons behind this issue. Since I am in this country, the home of the top university in Asia except for the most recent ranking, I have observed how their schools work. Their universities dont focus upon academics but on RESEARCH. All graduating students in colleges and universties are required to produce research before they can earn their degrees. In the final year of the students, they get very few classes so they can give more time to their research. My classmates for instance have only one subject left and all the rest of their time should be used for their individual research. So we can imagine how many research would they be able to generate per year! This does not include yet the researches done in Graduate and Post-Graduate schools. Of course the number of rsearch decreases as the level goes higher especially in the Phils. With this strategy of Japan’s universities they can really make it to the top. There are of course other significant reasons but this one is something our universities dont simply have.
July 20th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
In the Phils we only make RESEARCH if we want to pursue higher education but in Japan it’s different, all students must do a research before graduating in college. In addition to that, in our country we can only do research or thesis if we pass first the dreadful comprehensive examinations. There r of course some courses which dont follow this rule but majority of the graduate courses would require this which many of the students find impossible and discouraging. In Japan all u have to do is to make sure u know your topic well and ur willing to do and to finish the research before the school year ends no more no less. If we could do the same in the Phils for sure we will conquer Asia.
As with the teaching abilities of the Japanese professors, it has been studied that most of them are have poor teaching abilities. Compared with my Professors in PNU, they wont stand a chance. Students themselves find them boring and traditional. Japanese only excel because they have the means to carry out their research but if we will compare Filipinos and Japanese Professors, the former will emerge as more skillful, knowledgeable and creative. The difference is that majority of Japanese are extremely hardworking. They dont stop until they get what they want. Anyway the bottomline is let us not despair, Filipinos dont rank low. The ratings wont really tell the truth. We know better than them!
August 18th, 2007 at 3:59 am
i’m so thankful that i was admitted to UP. i love everything here! the community, the culture, and of course, the academe! definitely home for the intellectuals…if you pass the UPCAT exam, think no more…after your stay in UP, u might find yourself again in this blogsite writing: thank God i chose UP.
August 23rd, 2007 at 10:07 am
DAMN!!! University of Toronto rocks!
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:45 pm
hello y’all!!! mapua is the greatest school in engineering!!! watch out!!!! it will soon become a university and it will rock them all!!!1
September 5th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Hello everyone.I am a foreign student who is very much interested in the people and culture of the philippines.
Philippine is a great nation but to my utmost surprise,a lot of you do not appreciate what you have and on the contrary,rant and compare your universities.Is it not obvious to you that the people who compare and rank these so called ”world’s best unversities” are alumni and associates[practically] of the same universities.
Look at the university of Cape town,the best university in Africa,was ranked worldwide at number 397..Get to this university,take a look at the facilities, find out the performance of thier graduates in various fields……..you will be surprised to find that most of them are far much better in productivity than those from Chicago and Yale.
So what criteria do these ”analyst” use to rank universities?……..Is it not obvious that much of the criteria is predefined by location,prejudice,loyalty,popularity and ”neighbourhood”?
Stop blaming your institutions and concentrate on how you can make Philippines a better Philippines for the next generation.Let them rank and rank and rank in thier bureacracies..Forget it and go ahead with transforming your nation………………third world is not the best description for Africa and some Asian countries like the Philippines…………….we deserve better
YOU ARE A GREAT NATION!
September 7th, 2007 at 12:41 am
Ateneo is a disappointment because, as a graduate of that school, I find the curriculum to be too application-oriented, in the sense that, student vision and thinking are bounded by practical theory. I find that I am being smothered with real-world practice that I am unable to see the potential in developing and expanding these theories that were thought to me. That school does not foster critical, hypothetical, thinking, which, i think, is the basis of research and what makes great thinkers. Just imagine yourself living in a box, when studying in that school.
September 25th, 2007 at 1:12 am
To check out the latest world rankings of top universities in the world, kindly refer to webometrics….search for world’s best universities. The latest rankings show that Tokyo Uni is the top in Asia with Stansfield Uni in USA as the top in the world. Taiwan Uni is second in Asia with MIT in US ranking 2nd in the world. The list gives you the top 4000 universities in the world. The rankings are of July 2007.
September 28th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
I am really proud to be a UP student. The best school without a doubt!
October 3rd, 2007 at 10:41 pm
” Stop blaming your institutions and concentrate on how you can make Philippines a better Philippines for the next generation.Let them rank and rank and rank in thier bureacracies..Forget it and go ahead with transforming your nation………………third world is not the best description for Africa and some Asian countries like the Philippines…………….we deserve better ”
- yeah. wake up guys… lets all bring out the best of what we can do for our country
stop it. ok?
October 10th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
The only edge of Ateneo over La Salle is that their campus is located on a better place.
October 15th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
la salle is highly the best school for me, ateneo, is just something behind la salle…….I think UP should be in the 1 in the world….hahahaha invite you to watch masskara here…. and kamusta to all lasallians on the world,,,,, animo university of St. Lasalle- Bacolod…….hahahahahahaha
October 15th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
I read about that article na galit na galit ung atenista………….
you know………. this is the real deal eh… if you go to UP advantage is they are the best…yet come to think of it…. different people from all walks of life go there… ung iba magaling nga masama nmn ugali selfish etch. tignan mo nlng nang yayari sa philippine government natin…………… GALING LAHAT CLA SA UP!!!! ANU NANGYARI!!!!!!!! HUH!!!
MAHIRAP MINSAN SOBRANG TALINO EHHHH…….
AT UNG ATENISTA KANINA!!!!!!!!!!! HOOOOOYYYYY!!!!!!!! TALO KA SA UAAP KAYA WAG KA MAG SALITA HUH!!!! 392 484…………….. ENAF SAID!!!!!!!!
ung survey na ginawa ng mga INTERNATIONAL EK EK na yan… its not just A year or 2 its more than 10years ata.. di ko na sure… kaya believe it or not its telling the truth…….. kaya ikaw……. manahimik ka…… maganda lng nmn sa ateneo madami kyong soccer fields un lng….. at one more thing sa mga seniors na nag iisip pa….. isa lng comment ko….. sa lasalle madaling makapasok… mahirap makatapos…. at lahat ng studyante sa school namin………….. are those people that they say na “STREETSMART” marunong makisama makibagay at mag dala…. we are born leaders…. yet b4 u became a leader you must be a good follower… kya follow me… ^_^ bleeeeeeeeeeeehhh…. ok na damdamin ko na buhos ko na……
kakatamad mag english ehhh araw araw nlng… MAHALin Ang sariling wika
Animo LAsALLE………………..(to the mrs. noemi helo po…..ingatzz….)
October 15th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
AT PAHABOL KO!!!!! ung mom ko is a awarded as a pambansang scholar sa UP since nag BS-communi… cya tpos masters tpos phd….kaya un sobrang talino…… di nya naiintindihan ung sinasabi ko minsan……..puro nlng kelangan ganto ganyan…..hayyyyyyyyyyyy
pero ung prof nmin taga UP galing mag turo… d best cya….
October 16th, 2007 at 7:18 am
To those who took up Lia-Com in DLSU-M, go for it. Im taking POM-ACM(political science and business management spec. in applied corporate management)a double degree 6 year course =) funny nga na sabi ng iba madali lang makapasa ng La Salle pero mahirap makatapos =). Unlike other university na semestral, DLSU has trimestral.
What’s best in DLSU-M:
Lia-Com Program - a combination of one major course in the College of Liberal Arts and one from College of Business and Economics
College of Engineering (all courses)
It is true that La Salle offers better Computer Studies courses than other universities.
Legal Management is better in La Salle.
Comment on the blog:
Maganda po sa UP basta hindi business =)
(opinion lang po)
Iba po kasi ang environment sa loob ng UP, radical sila in some way na nakakaaffect ng social abilities nila. =) Yung mga nagtatapos ng business sa UP-D nahihirapan kumuha ng trabaho kasi di rin naeexpose ang mga studyante sa business world. I mean maganda nga pero pag di mo alam o di mo naexperience, di mo talaga kaya. Di kasi sila binibigyan ng pondo ng gobyerno para ilabas ang mga estudyante. Hanggang campus lang sila, nag-aaral. Nakakalabas pero di malayo. Di tulad ng DLSU at ADMU nakakapagpadala ng students sa corporate firms. Like in my case, sa course ko i have a year or 3 terms of working experience. tama? =) Kaya naging 6 years. Ang maganda pa dun, after a term of trying to work yung next term balik to campus ka ulit. then next term off campus nanaman =) vv. =)
October 17th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
uy, out of topic na question: ^_^
ano ba talaga yung grade requirements ng BS Bio or Geo sa UP Diliman? sabi nila BS Bio 1.5, yung iba 1.75 science subjects GPA then 2.0 sa GE. Sakto ba? BS Bio student from UP Cebu
sorry na hindi ako nag-english pero parang nahahaloan ko na yung bisaya, tagalog, at english. hehehe.. pang practice lang sa kinalawang kong tagalog
UP astig ^_^
pero happy happy naman o. at least yung tatlong Universities natin nakapasok sa top 500 around the world (based on those statistics).
October 18th, 2007 at 12:08 am
all of your blogs are interesting and i enjoy reading them..
well, school matters but what’s really the most important is our attitude.
stop comparing which is the best school in our country.
for those who are in the prestigious schools in our country: it is very fortunate of you to be there..
let’s just help and respect each other..for us to have a BETTER PHILIPPINES!
there is still hope hanging around..
let’s just do our very best to show to the world how good Filipinos are!
(though it is really disappointing that most foreigners underestimate us)
the bible says: all humans are created equal…….
so there is still a chance for us Filipinos to succeed in everything we do and compete with other nationalities.
it isn’t important to be the best among the rest, but just to be good in everthing we do..
what would being the best DO if we have hurt and offended others?
our country is known for its/her being Catholic..
so why not apply God’s Words in our daily lives?.
FILIPINOS, LET US ALL BE ONE IN MAKING A BETTER PHILIPPINES!.
LET US STOP THIS “CRAB MENTALITY” AMONG US..
IT IS NOT YET LATE!.
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:46 am
You see guys, rankings talk. Whether or not we love them or hate them, they are authentic and scientific than our honorable opinion. When that THES rankings was published, everybody loved it, even the ones who hated it loved it. That survey negated the common notion that admu is THE SCHOOL. Ateneo could not accept that it lagged behind DLSU. As for ADMU, do well next season, not just in basketball but in THES as well.
October 24th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
mas matatalino prin ateneo kysa lasalle….ADMU(beauty,money,and BRAIN) while lasalle(beauty,money,and NO BRAIN) hahahahaha!!!
October 25th, 2007 at 11:27 pm
stop arguing on what school is better.. it won’t help on boosting the development of our nation .. for me, it only depends on the student/alumni himself.. what if you graduated from the best university but you don’t have the guts to apply for a job, or simply you just can’t handle it? it’s as simple as that. but for me, the confidence, skills, socialization, critical thinking, and almost everything can be learned not only inside but outside the classrooms of UP.. =)
btw, i’d like to comment on some particular reactions posted here.. first of all, i am a UP Dil student, so you may find my statements as kinda’ one-sided..
“tignan mo nlng nang yayari sa philippine government natin…………… GALING LAHAT CLA SA UP!!!! ANU NANGYARI!!!!!!!! HUH!!!”
—> yeah, agree ako jan.. mismo nga mga tga-UP cnasabi yan.. pero hnd nmn nmin kinokonsente ito.. EH PANSININ MO NGA RN KUNG CNONG MGA NGTATAYA NG BUHAY AT LUMALABAN SA MGA CORRUPT NA ETO, DBA MGA TGA-UP RIN PLAGI.. kya nga tumatak n ung stereotype n aktibista ang mga tga-UP eh.. kc alam nmin n me 2ngkulin kming pgsilbihan ang masa, na syang ngpapa-aral smin… ms selfish ang mga taong wlng pkialam s bayan at nkacenter lng ang mundo s sariling pg-asenso.. ang materialistic n mundo ng mga socialites.. animo! hehe.. =P
“Entering UP system is not that difficult at all. Why?? sometimes students just choose NON-QUOTA COURSES and eventually SHIFT to the courses they want… ”
–> I totally disagree, entering UP was never that easy.. And i don’t have to expound on that. Let the statistics or studies show it. regarding the case of shifting, it’s another matter to deal with.. Based on my experience, shifting to another course is another “pgpasok-sa-karayom” test… You can’t just shift to another course if you haven’t reached a certain GWA which is above average of course… if you’re not that good, you’ll get stuck on the non-quota course where you have qualified.. so don’t try to talk as if you know it all.. try to support your claims with details.. okay? =)
October 27th, 2007 at 2:22 am
DLSU is known for its excellence in programs like Engineering, Computer Sciences, Education, Business, Accountancy and also Health-Science Courses like Medicine, Nursing, Radiologic Tech, Physical Therapy. The La Sallian community is growing there are now 18 district schools in the country and a number of supervised schools. Now nearing its centennial La Salle has proven its worth in Philippine society for building outstanding Christian leaders and achievers! Animo La Salle!
October 27th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
All College entrance exams are incipient inroads towards academic freedom. karapatan ng bawat kabataan o mamamayang pilipino na makapag-ara. hindi dapat subukin ang katalinuhan ng isang tao sa pagkuha exam lamang ng isang entrance exam dahil ito’y maaaring maging balakad sa karapatan o kalayaan ng isang tao na makapag-aral. mungkahi ko lamang sa lahat ng unibersidad dito sa pilipinas public man o private. sa tingin ko na ang pagaaral ng walang balakid o hadlang ay siyang magiging susi sa pagunlad ng ating bayan.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:17 am
http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2005/ARWU2005FullList2.pdf
seriously, i aint seeing any school from the philippines here.
November 9th, 2007 at 1:20 am
Oh, well.. It’s a different survey, anyways
November 18th, 2007 at 4:52 am
The 2007 THES-QS ranking finally revealed the overall score of the four Philippine Universities included:
UP 34.7
ATENEO 30.8
LA SALLE 23.9
UST 20.8
THAT’S JUST IT!
November 18th, 2007 at 9:22 am
After the intense international criticism following the release of last year’s ranking, the THES has now released the new and improved 2007 ranking. Sadly, this time only 2 schools appear in the top 500. (Which makes me wonder what will happen to the shameless marketing campaign launched by La Salle based on its beating Ateneo last year).
This time, La Salle doesn’t even appear in the list of top 500 schools.
398 University of the Philippines
451 Ateneo de Manila University
November 18th, 2007 at 2:07 pm
SUPER KARMA ang ibang school jan that used such ranking study last year to the hilt just so to make their school appear superior to the rest to the point of dragging other schools down. Yes, I’m talking about that particular school sa Taft na uber hyped ang pagka 392nd last year and even claimed that they indeed WERE the best private university in the land.
So kumusta naman??? Im sure that particular enhancement in the peer review criterion wherein one can no longer vote for its own school affected them so much.
Of all 4 Philippine schools, the one that enjoyed most the result of last year’s ranking is the WORST casualty of this year’s result - DOWN BY 127 PLACES!!!
November 20th, 2007 at 2:55 am
Here are all the Southeast-asian schools that made this year’s TOP 500:
1 33 National University of Singapore 84.3
2 69 Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 73.6
3 223 Chulalongkorn University, Thailand 52.3
4 247 Universiti Malaya, Malaysia 49.4
5 285 Mahidol University, Thailand 44.7
6 308 Universiti Sains Malaysia 42.4
7 310 Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia 42.3
8 366 Universiti Putra Malaysia 38.1
9 369 Bandung Institute of Technology, Indonesia 37.8
10 395 University of Indonesia 34.9
11 398 UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES 34.7
12 419 Universiti Teknologi Malaysia 33.4
13 447 Kasetsart University, Thailand 30.9
13 447 Thammasat University, Thailand 30.9
15 451 ATENEO DE MANILA UNIVERSITY, PHILIPPINES 30.8
16 463 Chiang Mai University, Thailand 29.7
Notice that all of these schools (except for those in Singapore) have pretty comparable scores. So the specific ranking from 3 to 16 could very well be reshaped by slightly fiddling with the criteria. Perhaps the only conclusion to be drawn from this is that at least two of our best schools are still comparable with our neighbor’s best. Anything more will depend on the arbitrariness of the THES criteria.
I’m still curious to know how that “school” in Taft can salvage anything from their premature obnoxiousness. So what now? Without anything backing their delusions of grandeur, what banners or ads will they come up with now?
Despite all the misspellings last year, this must certainly be their biggest faux pas. So much for “AL SALLE” and “NUF SAID”.
November 20th, 2007 at 3:01 am
Oh, and by the way, to the lasallite “Kris” who posted this:
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#Kris says:
October 22nd, 2007 at 10:46 am
You see guys, rankings talk. Whether or not we love them or hate them, they are authentic and scientific than our honorable opinion. When that THES rankings was published, everybody loved it, even the ones who hated it loved it. That survey negated the common notion that admu is THE SCHOOL. Ateneo could not accept that it lagged behind DLSU. As for ADMU, do well next season, not just in basketball but in THES as well.
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Suppose rankings do talk, what do you think they’re telling you now?
November 21st, 2007 at 1:54 pm
Lol…It’s just really fun to sit back here diliman and watch those two colors wrestle for the silver spot…some individuals here just never get tired of the bash-trash.. every once in a while one of them even side-swiped an opinion about our business course like “..maganda po sa UP basta hindi business” haha… well that’s easy to swallow since he stressed that it’s just his opinion..but nevertheless still a retard’s opinion hehe..
well, for the benefit of the green-blue bashers i’ll dip in my toes for a while and share some of my observations…
i have a handful of friends coming from those “elite” (daw) universities, and isa lang talaga masasabi ko…mayayaman tlga sila! hehe kidding aside…pansin ko lang sa mga atenista eh hindi sila masyadong apektado sa mga serbey-serbey na yan, kahit pa noong mga taong sila ang pumapangalawa sa kalidad ng edukasyon ay hindi nila ito masyadong ipinagmamalaki at isinasampal sa ibang institusyon.. pero ang lasallista naman ay yung mga tipong “kahit mamatay na pamilya namin ok lang basta lumamang kami sa ateneo”…wag na nating isali ang UP dahil talagang hindi na namin pinansin ang THES…
November 21st, 2007 at 2:10 pm
As what i read and heard, UP snubbed THES officials when asked to submit current demographic information about the university, ateneo and ust on the other hand didn’t show much enthusiasm and cooperation knowing that the criteria used for their 2006 survey lacked credibility and objectiveness… mukhang lasalle lang yung sigi ng sigi and even disclosed some inaccurate information… talaga nga naman…
November 22nd, 2007 at 1:15 pm
Rank School Name Country
1 HARVARD University United States
2= University of CAMBRIDGE United Kingdom
2= YALE University United States
2= University of OXFORD United Kingdom
5 Imperial College LONDON United Kingdom
6 PRINCETON University United States
7= CALIFORNIA Institute of Technology (Calt… United States
7= University of CHICAGO United States
9 UCL (University College LONDON) United Kingdom
10 MASSACHUSETTS Institute of Technology (M… United States
11 COLUMBIA University United States
12 MCGILL University Canada
13 DUKE University United States
14 University of PENNSYLVANIA United States
15 JOHNS HOPKINS University United States
16 AUSTRALIAN National University Australia
17 University of TOKYO Japan
18 University of HONG KONG Hong Kong
19 STANFORD University United States
20= CORNELL University United States
20= CARNEGIE MELLON University United States
22 University of California, BERKELEY United States
23 University of EDINBURGH United Kingdom
24 King’s College LONDON United Kingdom
25 KYOTO University Japan
26 Ecole Normale Supérieure, PARIS France
27 University of MELBOURNE Australia
28 ÉCOLE POLYTECHNIQUE France
29 NORTHWESTERN University United States
30 University of MANCHESTER United Kingdom
31 The University of SYDNEY Australia
32 BROWN University United States
33= National University of SINGAPORE Singapore
33= University of QUEENSLAND Australia
33= University of BRITISH COLUMBIA Canada
36 PEKING University China
37 University of BRISTOL United Kingdom
38= University of MICHIGAN United States
38= The CHINESE University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
40 TSINGHUA University China
41 University of CALIFORNIA, Los Angeles (U… United States
42 ETH Zurich (Swiss Federal Institute of T… Switzerland
43 MONASH University Australia
44 University of NEW SOUTH WALES Australia
45 University of TORONTO Canada
46 OSAKA University Japan
47 BOSTON University United States
48 University of AMSTERDAM Netherlands
49 NEW YORK University (NYU) United States
50 The University of AUCKLAND New Zealand
51= University of TEXAS at Austin United States
51= SEOUL National University Korea, South
53= TRINITY College Dublin Ireland
53= HONG KONG University of Science & Techno… Hong Kong
55= University of WISCONSIN-Madison United States
55= University of WASHINGTON United States
57 University of WARWICK United Kingdom
58 University of CALIFORNIA, San Diego United States
59 LONDON School of Economics and Political… United Kingdom
60 HEIDELBERG University Germany
61 Katholieke Universiteit LEUVEN Belgium
62 University of ADELAIDE Australia
63 DELFT University of Technology Netherlands
64 University of WESTERN AUSTRALIA Australia
65= University of BIRMINGHAM United Kingdom
65= Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München (… Germany
67 Technische Universität MÜNCHEN Germany
68 University of SHEFFIELD United Kingdom
69 NANYANG Technological University Singapore
70 University of NOTTINGHAM United Kingdom
71= UPPSALA University Sweden
71= DARTMOUTH College United States
73 University of ILLINOIS United States
74= EMORY University United States
74= University of YORK United Kingdom
76 University of ST ANDREWS United Kingdom
77= University of PITTSBURGH United States
77= PURDUE University United States
79 University of MARYLAND United States
80= University of SOUTHAMPTON United Kingdom
80= University of LEEDS United Kingdom
82 VANDERBILT University United States
83 University of GLASGOW United Kingdom
84 LEIDEN University Netherlands
85= CASE WESTERN RESERVE University United States
85= FUDAN University China
85= University of VIENNA Austria
88 QUEEN’S University Canada
89 UTRECHT University Netherlands
90= TOKYO Institute of Technology Japan
90= PENNSYLVANIA STATE University United States
92 RICE University United States
93= University of COPENHAGEN Denmark
93= University of MONTREAL Canada
95 University of ROCHESTER United States
96 University of CALIFORNIA, Davis United States
97= University of ALBERTA Canada
97= GEORGIA Institute of Technology United States
99 CARDIFF University United Kingdom
100 University of HELSINKI Finland
101 University of LIVERPOOL United Kingdom
102= GEORGETOWN University United States
102= National TAIWAN University Taiwan
102= TOHOKU University Japan
105 University of GENEVA Switzerland
106 LUND University Sweden
107 University of COLORADO United States
108 MCMASTER University Canada
109 DURHAM University United Kingdom
110 University of VIRGINIA United States
111 MAASTRICHT University Netherlands
112= University of WATERLOO Canada
112= NAGOYA University Japan
114= University of AARHUS Denmark
114= University of BASEL Switzerland
114= University of OTAGO New Zealand
117= Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de LAUSANNE… Switzerland
117= University of CALIFORNIA, Santa Barbara United States
119 University of SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA United States
120 OHIO STATE University United States
121 University of SUSSEX United Kingdom
122 TEXAS A&M University United States
123 Université Catholique de LOUVAIN (UCL) Belgium
124 University of GHENT Belgium
125 NANJING University China
126= University of WESTERN ONTARIO Canada
126= HUMBOLDT-Universität zu Berlin Germany
128 Hebrew University of JERUSALEM Israel
129 NEWCASTLE University, NEWCASTLE Upon Tyn… United Kingdom
130= Technical University of DENMARK Denmark
130= EINDHOVEN University of Technology Netherlands
132= Université Pierre-et-Marie-Curie - PARIS… France
132= KOREA Advanced Institute of Science & Te… Korea, South
134 University of ARIZONA United States
135 University of FLORIDA United States
136 KYUSHU University Japan
137= University of ABERDEEN United Kingdom
137= INDIANA University Bloomington United States
139 SIMON FRASER University Canada
140= University of ZURICH Switzerland
140= University of CALIFORNIA, Irvine United States
142= Universität TÜBINGEN Germany
142= University of MINNESOTA United States
144 Universität FREIBURG Germany
145 University of BATH United Kingdom
146 Freie Universität BERLIN Germany
147 University of LANCASTER United Kingdom
148 WAGENINGEN University Netherlands
149= CITY University of Hong Kong Hong Kong
149= Queen Mary, University of LONDON United Kingdom
151= TEL AVIV University Israel
151= HOKKAIDO University Japan
151= University of NORTH CAROLINA United States
154 Université Libre de BRUXELLES (ULB) Belgium
155= University of Science and Technology of … China
155= University of NOTRE DAME United States
157 Ecole Normale Supérieure de LYON France
158 CRANFIELD University United Kingdom
159= MICHIGAN STATE University United States
159= TUFTS University United States
161= WASHINGTON University in St. Louis United States
161= KEIO University Japan
163= ERASMUS University Rotterdam Netherlands
163= SHANGHAI JIAO TONG University China
165 Universität STUTTGART Germany
166= University of CALGARY Canada
166= VIENNA University of Technology Austria
168= Universität GÖTTINGEN Germany
168= MACQUARIE University Australia
170 HELSINKI University of Technology - TKK Finland
171= Universität KARLSRUHE Germany
171= University of DUNDEE United Kingdom
173= University of BOLOGNA Italy
173= University of GRONINGEN Netherlands
175= University of SAO PAULO Brazil
175= University of MASSACHUSETTS, Amherst United States
177= University College DUBLIN Ireland
177= RUTGERS, The State University of New Jer… United States
177= University of CAMPINAS (Unicamp) Brazil
180= WASEDA University Japan
180= University of READING United Kingdom
182 Rheinisch-Westfälische Technische Hochsc… Germany
183 Università degli Studi di ROMA - La Sapi… Italy
184 Université Louis Pasteur - STRASBOURG I France
185= University of TWENTE Netherlands
185= University of LEICESTER United Kingdom
187 University of ANTWERP Belgium
188= University of CANTERBURY New Zealand
188= University of OSLO Norway
190 University of SURREY United Kingdom
191 RENSSELAER Polytechnic Institute United States
192= KTH, ROYAL Institute of Technology Sweden
192= Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México … Mexico
194 University of BARCELONA Spain
195= Radboud Universiteit NIJMEGEN Netherlands
195= QUEENSLAND University of Technology Australia
197= KOBE University Japan
197= CHALMERS University of Technology Sweden
199 University of WOLLONGONG Australia
200= RMIT University Australia
200= University of CAPE TOWN South Africa
202 University of MIAMI United States
203= WAKE FOREST University United States
203= Technische Universität BERLIN Germany
205= QUEEN’S University of Belfast United Kingdom
205= LA TROBE University Australia
207 University of IOWA United States
208 BRANDEIS University United States
209= University of TSUKUBA Japan
209= ZHEJIANG University China
209= Universität FRANKFURT am Main Germany
212 HIROSHIMA University Japan
213 University of VICTORIA Canada
214 University of BERN Switzerland
215 University of NEWCASTLE Australia
216 Universität HAMBURG Germany
217 University of LAUSANNE Switzerland
218 TULANE University United States
219 University of CINCINNATI United States
220 University of EXETER United Kingdom
221= DALHOUSIE University Canada
221= ARIZONA STATE University United States
223 CHULALONGKORN University Thailand
224 STONY BROOK University United States
225= University of BERGEN Norway
225= University of INNSBRUCK Austria
227= OTTAWA University Canada
227= Sciences Po PARIS France
229= GEORGE WASHINGTON University United States
229= Vrije University BRUSSELS (VUB) Belgium
231= Lomonosov MOSCOW STATE University Russia
231= TECHNION - Israel Institute of Technolog… Israel
233 POHANG University of Science and Technol… Korea, South
234 VICTORIA University of Wellington New Zealand
235 CURTIN University of Technology Australia
236 YONSEI University Korea, South
237= University of TURKU Finland
237= LOUGHBOROUGH University United Kingdom
239= Pontificia Universidad Católica de CHILE… Chile
239= Technische Universität DARMSTADT Germany
239= SAINT-PETERSBURG State University Russia
242 MASSEY University New Zealand
243= School of Oriental and African Studies, … United Kingdom
243= KOREA University Korea, South
243= Technische Universität DRESDEN Germany
246= Universiti MALAYA (UM) Malaysia
246= STOCKHOLM University Sweden
248= YORK University Canada
248= NORTH CAROLINA STATE University United States
248= University of ATHENS Greece
248= Virginia Polytechnic Institute (VIRGINIA… United States
252 University of STRATHCLYDE United Kingdom
253 FLORIDA STATE University United States
254 University of DELHI India
255 University of HAWAII United States
256= The HONG KONG Polytechnic University Hong Kong
256= DREXEL University United States
258 Universidad Autònoma de BARCELONA Spain
259= University of Technology, SYDNEY Australia
259= University of CALIFORNIA, Santa Cruz United States
261 University of UTAH United States
262 University of LIEGE Belgium
263 Universität ULM Germany
264= University of TASMANIA Australia
264= University of BUENOS AIRES Argentina
266 ASTON Business School United Kingdom
267= Université Paris-Sud, PARIS XI France
267= KUOPIO University Finland
269 Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (I… India
270= Universität WÜRZBURG Germany
270= Universität ERLANGEN-NÜRNBERG Germany
272 University of ESSEX United Kingdom
273= NAGASAKI University Japan
273= STOCKHOLM School of Economics Sweden
275 Université Joseph-Fourier, GRENOBLE I France
276= IOWA STATE University United States
276= Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universitä… Germany
276= Göteborg University Sweden
279 Karl-Franzens-University GRAZ Austria
280 LAVAL University Canada
281 University of KANSAS United States
282= University of the WITWATERSRAND South Africa
282= University of ALABAMA United States
284= CHIBA University Japan
284= MAHIDOL University Thailand
286= University College CORK Ireland
286= BEN GURION University of the Negev Israel
286= WASHINGTON STATE University United States
289 University of TENNESSEE United States
290 CHARLES University Czech Republic
291 University of SOUTH AUSTRALIA Australia
292= Universität LEIPZIG Germany
292= University of TROMSO Norway
292= BRUNEL University United Kingdom
295= Université Paris-Sorbonne (PARIS IV) France
295= University of GEORGIA United States
297 Universität BAYREUTH Germany
298 University of CALIFORNIA, Riverside United States
299 UMEÅ University Sweden
300 DUBLIN City University Ireland
301= NORWEGIAN University of Science and Tech… Norway
301= University of MONTPELLIER II - Sciences … France
303 College of WILLIAM & MARY United States
304= Vrije Universiteit AMSTERDAM Netherlands
304= University of MANITOBA Canada
306 Universidad Autónoma de MADRID Spain
307= Universiti Sains MALAYSIA (USM) Malaysia
307= Indian Institute of Technology Delhi (II… India
309= Universiti Kebangsaan MALAYSIA (UKM) Malaysia
309= GRIFFITH University Australia
311 Universität KONSTANZ Germany
312= University of PADUA Italy
312= Universität DÜSSELDORF Germany
312= Universität BIELEFELD Germany
312= Universidad de CHILE Chile
316 Universität JENA Germany
317 University of SOUTHERN DENMARK Denmark
318 SHOWA University Japan
319= University of WAIKATO New Zealand
319= University of TAMPERE Finland
319= University of COIMBRA Portugal
319= University of Cologne Germany
319= University of NAVARRA Spain
324 TIANJIN University China
325 University of PISA Italy
326 COLORADO STATE University United States
327 WHU Otto Beisheim School of Management -… Germany
328 University of CONNECTICUT United States
329 University of FLORENCE Italy
330 Johannes Gutenberg University MAINZ Germany
331= JAGIELLONIAN University Poland
331= GUNMA University Japan
333 Ruhr-Universität BOCHUM Germany
334 National TSING HUA University Taiwan
335 TOKYO Metropolitan University Japan
336= University of QUEBEC Canada
336= National CHENG KUNG University Taiwan
338 Federal University of RIO DE JANEIRO Brazil
339= Universitat POMPEU FABRA Spain
339= University of MÜNSTER Germany
341= Universidade Nova de LISBOA Portugal
341= Universität MARBURG Germany
343= Politecnico di MILANO Italy
343= University of DELAWARE United States
345= SAARLAND University Germany
345= GIFU University Japan
345= WARSAW University Poland
345= CARLETON University Canada
349 University of BRADFORD United Kingdom
350 LOYOLA University Chicago United States
351= FLINDERS University Australia
351= University of OREGON United States
351= DUBLIN Institute of Technology Ireland
354= University of OULU Finland
354= YOKOHAMA NATIONAL University Japan
356= National Technical University of ATHENS Greece
356= University of East Anglia (UEA) United Kingdom
358= City University of NEW YORK United States
358= University of NEW MEXICO United States
360= Universitas GADJAH MADA Indonesia
360= University of TOULOUSE III - Paul Sabati… France
362= University of ST GALLEN Switzerland
362= University of SOUTH CAROLINA United States
364= Science University TOKYO Japan
364= Universiti Putra MALAYSIA (UPM) Malaysia
364= OSAKA CITY University Japan
364= Universität BREMEN Germany
368 Johannes Kepler University LINZ Austria
369= Université PARIS I - Panthéon Sorbonne France
369= BANDUNG Institute of Technology Indonesia
371= WARSAW University of Technology Poland
371= LINKÖPING University Sweden
373 University of OKLAHOMA United States
374= DEAKIN University Australia
374= University of JYVÄSKYLÄ Finland
374= University of TRIESTE Italy
377 OKAYAMA University Japan
378= University of KENTUCKY United States
378= Universität REGENSBURG Germany
380 SUNG KYUN KWAN University Korea, South
381= University of MISSOURI United States
381= YESHIVA University United States
383= CONCORDIA University Canada
383= Leibniz Universität HANNOVER Germany
383= Technische Universität BRAUNSCHWEIG Germany
386= NORTHEASTERN University United States
386= KUMAMOTO University Japan
388= Università degli Studi di PAVIA Italy
388= Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu KIEL Germany
390 ISTANBUL Technical University Turkey
391 Université PARIS V - Descartes France
392 Universität MANNHEIM Germany
393 Universitat de VALENCIA Spain
394 University of SIENA Italy
395 University of INDONESIA Indonesia
396= GEORGIA STATE University United States
396= Martin-Luther-Universität HALLE-WITTENBE… Germany
398= SOGANG University Korea, South
398= UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES Philippines
398= National CENTRAL University Taiwan
Source: THES - QS World University Rankings
Copyright © 2004-2007 QS Quacquarelli Symonds
IT’S SO UNFAIR!
November 24th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Sa totoo lang, nawawalan na rin ata ng gana ang UP for surveys like this one, with due respect to former president dodong nemenzo na nagpursiging itayo ang school in the international arena, UP realized not to take the survey seriously na last year, i’ve read from a UP publication that UP is questioning the criteria used, at ‘yong scoring system….well, kahit na mag first place ang UP sa world ranking, wala rin namang nagagawa ang gobyerno para lalo pang i-develop ang UP, nilulustay lang ang pera ng masang pilipino na dapat sana ay para sa edukasyun….give it to ateneo and la sALLE na lang, kulang pa ata sila sa recognition eh..hehe…but then, kahit na ganun…hindi pa rin naman naaalis ang UP sa listahan…and still the best and the premier university in the Philippines….talunin muna nila ang UP sa Philippines’ top universities ranking, bago sila magka-ubusan ng hiya at laway sa pagtatalo ’bout the ranking in the THES QS rankings..
..i’ve heard nga, mas dumarami daw kumukuha ng graduate studies sa ateneo at la salle kisa sa UP lalo na sa social sciences (like psych, socio, history, etc.. kasi daw takot silang bumagsak sa UP..haha..
November 28th, 2007 at 1:17 am
Well, apparently everyone’s trying to defend their own school. While this certain world ranking reflects some truth, my own thought, is that, what matters really is how the graduates actually turn out in the real world. Do they become corrupt citizens or catalysts for change? Do they stay humble and change the world? Or do they spend time throwing mud at other people and institutions, just to prove their point?
UP, ADMU, DLSU, UST and others. These are all respectable schools, masters of education in their own right.
A little respect. Its not like your school is proud of you, which gives you no right to blabber all about what school is better.
[By the way, this is not for the author, comments more for the readers.]
November 28th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
eh pano naman kami?????
up, la salle, ust ateneo… san ba kami lulugar niyan ngayon??
ang sama naman.. mawawalan naman tayo niyan ng ganang mag-aral!
December 10th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
hahahaha. anu ngayon mga lasalista!!! talo na nman kau sa ateneo! yabang nyo kc. porket nlamngan lng nnyu ang ateneo lst year tlgang nagyayabng kau.. d katulad ng ateneo humble lang..hahaha..”BOBO” kc lasalista.. khit c edu manzano na tamimi sa latest survey,hambog nya kc.proud pa..anu nanyari ngayon,malaking kahihiyan sa kanya..huhuhu.. ateneo still the best private university in the philippines,khit san ka mapunta,mula luzon hanggang mindanao ateneo tlga best sa knila…khit sa dabate ateneo prin ang nagwagi…GO ATENEO!!!ONE BIG FIGHT!!!
December 10th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
ateneo is still the best university in the philippines,masarap tlga maging atenista.. hahahaha… wawa nman lasalle d nkapsok sa top 500.. yabang kc..!!! sa susunod be humble nlang pra di mapapahiya!!hehehe,peace:….. nu kya htsura ng mga tchers ng lasalle,cguro nananamlay dhil sa kahihiyan!!!! huhuhu… glingan nyo n lang nxt year..hehehe
December 12th, 2007 at 11:27 am
Isa naman sa criteria ay ang ganda ng facilities ng isangs chool.Dito sa atin sa Pilipinas, maraming matatalinong bata kahit walang upuan ang classroom nila.Sa facilities pa lang ay talo na tayo dahil imbes na edukasyon ang may pinakamalaking porsiyento ng budget, napupunta ito sa militar.Kung utak lang ang pag-uusapan,pahuhuli ba ang mga Pinoy?
January 5th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Why don’t you follow my footstep? It went to ADMU all the way from prep to graduate school (MA only), taught at DLSU-Manila for five straight years and found a Hispanic-Chinese girlfriend who obtained physical therapy from UP-Manila and Doctor of Medicine from UST. After seven years of going steady we finally settled down and are happily married. She’s a resident-physician at Mt. Sinai here at New York while I’m finishing my PhD at Columbia University and teaching part-time at Fordham University. You see, if you combine our experiences we’re affiliated with AdMU, UP, UST and DLSU
January 8th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
hay.. grabe naman. nag-away-away na dahil lang sa THES-QS na yan.
sa tingin ko, hindi natin dapat i-base yung quality ng education na ibinibigay ng university sa mga ganyang survey. hindi nga tayo sure na ACCURATE at CREDIBLE talaga yan e.
besides, hindi nga officially pumayag ang UP na magparticipate diyan dahil nga may mga issues na hindi nga credible ung THES-QS na yan e. pati yung ADMU, hindi masyadong sineseryoso ang mga ganyang bagay… jino-joke time nga nila ung PAASCU accreditation nila e…yan pa kaya na survey lang? haha. well..ung UST at DLSU, hindi ko lang alam.. haha.
SA LAHAT NG STUDENTS FROM UP, ATENEO, LA SALLE and UST:
maswerte na kayo. 
-wag na lang ninyo pansinin yan…just be contented. You already have a privilege of studying in a very good and prestigious university.
February 6th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
I NEED HELP!
I passed both UP (BSBA) and ATENEO (BS Management). I passed DLSU (BS Int’l Business Studies) too but I crossed it out from my options since I live in QC. I am really torn between UP and ATENEO now. My mind is set on being part of the business community someday. So I want to ask your opinion about which is the better school as far as business courses are concerned.
Is UP the only university from the Philippines recognized abroad in both undergraduate and graduate programs? I read comment no.9 by ice and I am very concerned about this.
Do they have exchange programs too? I know that JGSOM in Ateneo has their Junior Term Abroad. Is this an advantage ( that is, if one qualifies for the JTA) ?Some colleagues of my dad said that if one is to consider ‘expanding the business network’, then Ateneo it is. Otherwise, they said that UP is still the better school. They told my dad that the slot in UP is so “precious” since the selection process is more rigid.
How about for graduate programs? Is it true that DLSU Business School is the best choice over UP and ATENEO (excluding AIM)? Is AIM the best among the best?
Please help. In UP, confirmation of decison to enroll will be from Feb 16 - (to something) already. ATENEO will be from March 10 - .
Thank you so much. Hear from you soon.
February 11th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
was secretary general of the biggest teachers’ federation in the philippines. was enroled in both up and ateneo. my wife was a product of the la sallian system. naging instructor din ako ng isang dominican college.
my take:
kailangan timbangin ang lahat ng factors (mga salik na may kinalaman sa pilipinas at taumbayan, hindi ang opinyon ng mga dayuhan) bago sabihin kung ano ang pinakamagaling–dami ng mga kurso; gaano namamaksimisa ang rekurso (fiscal, human, etc.); gaano karami ang kandidato sa mga licensure exams at passing percentages; kontribusyon ng eskwelahan sa lipunan at sa mundo. atbp.
sa maraming mga bagay, lamang ang mga private universities and some colleges sa up. (pwedeng isama rito ang mga ibang eskwelahan na lumalamang sa mga unibersidad na nabanggit sa mga board exams tulad ng mapua sa eng’g, fatima at plm sa medical courses, san beda sa law, lyceum sa foreign service, tc.) pero sa kabuuan and objectively speaking, sino ba naman ang seryosong magsasabing mas magaling ang mga ito kumpara sa up?
isa pa, ang up ang THE state university. kapag pinupulaan ito ng hindi pinoy dahilan sa anupaman, ang lahat ng pilipino ay dapat malungkot, magalit, manghinayang. salamin ng institusyon na ito ang ating lipunan–glory, problems and all. atin ang up, kahit hindi tayo nag-aral dito.
ngayon, isa namang tanong sa lahat ng nag-aaral at may pag-aaralin sa kolehiyo. gaano kahalaga na magiging masaya ang inyong mga anak sa eskwelahang pupuntahan nila?
dito naman, tiyak na lamang ang san beda. hindi ko lang alam ngayon kasi co-ed na sila. malaki lang ang problema ng school na ito kasi ang pinakamagagaling nilang law profs ay nagsilipat na lahat sa arellano law.
pinakahuli, ang eskwelahan naman ay isang salik lang ng tunay na proseso ng edukasyon. kahit naman pinakamahal ang bayad o pinakamagaling ang mga guro, depende rin naman sa estudyante at sa pamilyang pinanggalingan kung gaano kahusay na estudyante sila. sa katunayan, ang unibersidad ng lipunan ang pinakamahusay na eskwelahan.
ika nga ni B. Franklin, huwag hayaang sagkaan ng eskwelahan ang inyong edukasyon.
April 25th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
its really bothering though where on earth that this universities of our neighboring countries in south east asia surpass the most prestigious university in the philippines, UP. even if i not from this school i stil feel sorry for them and in our country. holy crap! nevertheless we need to be thankfull being in that top 500 is not easy. for ateneo and la salle its not all about the pretty penny its the mental capacity. go falcons..
May 14th, 2008 at 12:30 am
I was torn between UP and Ateneo too when I had to decide already. I crossed out DLSU, UST and Mapua from my choices already even though I passed them, and they are really good schools too.
I ended up with Ateneo because I was put off by UP’s facilities. Well, for my course, that is. So really, I think that choosing schools depend on the course you want to take. Is it their specialty? Do they have sufficient equipment/facility for you course? Etc etc..
But you know, it boils down to one thing.
Deciding schools is up to yourself. Whatever school you go to, it’s you who will make the best out of the education you’ll get. It’s not the school you go to that gets the job, it’s the knowledge you digested all throughout.
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May 16th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
ako, UP or nothing. makabayan e haha pangarap ko maging AKTIBISTA! (something na d ko kaya sabihin sa tatay ko given na he’s a us loyalist at mortal na kalaban nya ang mga komunista kya tagong tago and communist manifesto ko dto bahay. ha ha.) im an incoming freshman ba polsci. im excited harhar
May 16th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
ako, UP or nothing. makabayan e haha pangarap ko maging AKTIBISTA! (something na d ko kaya sabihin sa tatay ko given na he’s a us loyalist at mortal na kalaban nya ang mga komunista kya tagong tago and communist manifesto ko dto bahay. ha ha.) im an incoming freshman ba polsci. im excited harhar
May 20th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Atenista ako ng 12 na taon (grade school at high school) bago ako nag-UP para sa kolehiyo. Masasabi ko na nung una eh ayoko talaga mag-UP, siyempre para masamahan ang mga kaklase ko na nag Ateneo lahat. Pero ngayon di na ako nagsisi na nag UP ako. Yung sinasabi mong student mix, naiintindihan ko yun.
May mga panahon na siyempre naiinggit din ako pag kinukuwentuhan ako na di kasing haba ang pila sa Ateneo kesa sa UP. Pero pag nakakasama ko naman ang dati kong mga kaklase, at kumain kami sa labas, napipikon sila sa mahabang linya. Ako naman, kaya ko maghintay at pumila.
Hindi madaling ilagay sa salita ang mga matututunan mo sa UP. Lalo na sa mga bagay na labas na ng classroom. Lalo na kung nanggaling ka sa private school. Napansin ko yun pag nagkikita kaming mga pumunta sa UP at mga pumunta sa Ateneo na high school classmates.
Mahal ko rin ang Ateneo dahil mas matagal ako run. Pero sa akin lang, mabuti pinili ko ang UP. Hindi ito maiintindihan nga mga taong hindi nag-UP kaya patawad.
Mabuhay ang Unibersidad ng Pilipinas!
June 2nd, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Alam nyo,instead of mocking and throwing criticisms on each other (these 3 universities: UP.ADMU,&DLSU),why don’t you just look and find for ways on how you can develop yourselves and surpass other universities,if possible not only our neighboring countries but also other superior coutries. Puro kayo bangayan! Buti pa ang UST,Peace Oriented,hindi nakikihalubilo sa mga “bopols” na ipinaglalaban nyo. Asking why do I did said that,kung matatalino kyo hindi kyo magbabangayan,bagkus ang isang magaling na unibersidad ay aaksyon kaagad upang tugunan ang kanyang mga pagkukulang at maiangat ang kanyang sarili sa pedestal. Pero I’m still proud of these universities for what they have done to be world-class and well identified internationally. But not all the culprit should be blamed after you,but mostly it should be to the government of ours.
And besides,what can you expect naman from a western surveyor but to be biased to their own universities. Magpasalamat nlng tyo na at least napasama pa rin ung apat,naalis man ung dalawa sa 500,at least nasa 600 pa rin ang DLSU & UST,kaysa naman wala. Let’s just hope that this country of ours can be great again.