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		<description>hello, i just want to share my experience regarding Danvil plans

nakakainis talaga yung sa Danvil (ngayon ko lang nalaman na dati pala cyang family first), I don't know kung alam ba ng SM management ang pinaggagawa nila.Yesterday (nov 16, 2008) ang maituturing kong pinakamalas na araw ko sa buong buhay ko until now sariwa pa rin sakin ang nangyari.

magkikita kami ng mga college friends ko sa jollibee megamall sa main entrance at exactly 4pm, sa hallway pa lang marami na dung nakauniform or nakaformal attire lalaki at babae, marami cla, then a girl approached mo ang sabi "ms itatanong ko lang kung me credit card ka na?"then tinitigan ko cya sabi nya "wag kang magalala, di ako nagaalok ng credit card, meron lang kc kaming promo na mamimigay ng freebies sa mga visa and mastercard card holders." YUng ibibigay namin sanyu na mga payong or mga bags, ala pong bayad yun ito ay para lamang maadvertise ang aming company, pwedeng patingin ng card nyu po?" pinakita ko yung card, at ang sabi nya ay may raffle promo raw cla at ang grand prize is honda na kotse.Cinongrats pa ako ng mga kasamahan nya.At dat tym sabi ko sa sarili ko hay naku parang family first ito.Pero Danvil naman kc ang name kaya sabi ko iba to.

Then I just thought na pwede namang mamaya na lang after kong i-meet ang friends ko sa jolibee,ang sabi nya cge samahan na kita, tapos ewan ko ba kung bakit di ako makaalis sa kanya at di ako makahindi. Tapos nasa 3rd floor na kami at habang nasa escalator, kinukuwentuhan nya ako kung taga saan ako at nung cnabi ko na taga caloocan ako ang sabi nya taga dun rin daw cya,what a coincidence di ba? pero kasama pala to sa marketing strategy nila,para mailapit ang loob nila sa magiging clients nila. At cnabi pa nya na educational plan ang inaalok nila at ok lang daw na tumanggi kc ala pa raw namn akong anak so di ko kailangan ang educational plan, maybe I could refer someone na mas kailangan nila ang educational plan na yun.

As we were in escalator, sabi ko hindi ito bluff ha? mabilis lang to kc meron pa akong imemeet sa may jollibee,she keeps on saying na sayang naman po ang ang mga prices at me chance pa po kayung manalo ng kotse, ang layu-layo na hanggang sa umabot na kami ng 5th floor or 4th floor, ang sabi ko san na ba? pwede bang mamaya na lang? sabi nya saglit lang po to alam ko naman po na di nyu kailangan ang mga payong at bags eh, hangganga sa makarating kami dun at magugulat ka na ang lahat ng empleyado ay nakapormal attire na kung susuriin mo ay di makakagawa ng mga kasinungalingan at pandaraya sa kapwa.

Pagpasok pa lang makikita mo na maganda ang place at may malaki clang TV na merong movie na pinapalabas. Tapos tinawag na ang name ko at pinapapirma ako dun na ang nakalagay ay na willing akong umattend sa "45 mins presentation" so sabi ko pwedeng mamaya na lang kc me pupuntahan pa talaga ako 4pm yun nakita ko sa relo ng babae, ayokong pumirma at tinwag nya yung nagdala sakin dun na ang tawag "Alona" na parang ang tono ng boses nya at meaning ng pagkakatawg nya ay ano ba tong recruit mo? Then Alona, approached me na cnabi cge na po ma'am saglit lang naman to eh, madadala ka talga sa pananalita nila at magagaling clang magsalita na napapirma ako dun. 

Si alona ay kinausap ako after kong pumirma ang sabi nya ma'am galingan nyu po sa pagpindot ha kc kailangan pabilisan lang ang pagpindot para makuha nyu ang instant jackpot na honda mabilis lang po kc nga marami kaming clients.Ang game na cnasabi nya ay yung me 8 numero dun sa itaas dapat sa pagpindot nyo sa baba ay kaytugma nung nandun sa taas, intersting di ba ?kc kotse ang grand prize.

Maya-maya tinawag na ako ng lalaki at kinamayan, dinala ako sa pinaka-office nila at mapapansin mo na marami ang nandun, sa isang table nakaupo ang isang agent at isang prospective client nila.

Dinala ako sa isang bakanteng table at doon ay inumpisahan nya na ang pagpepresent ng company nila.May hawak cyang papel na ang nakalagay ay Philippine Prudential Life Insurance Company,then I asked him affiliate ba cya ng Prudential Life?sabi nya hindi.

Then ininterview nya ako,he approached me as a friend and he was so nice inalok nya pa nga ako ng iced tea,tapos yung takbo ng usapan namin from my personal info ay napunta na dun sa laman ng savings ko at kung anong credit cards meron ako,then sabi ko sa sarili ko once na tinanong nito kung anong number ng account ko talagang mag-wawalk out kc alam kong bawal ibigay ang account number lalo at company cla. So hindi naman nya kinuha ang account number ko pero at that time ninerbiyos na talaga ako,at gusto ko na ring umuwi dahil merong naghihintay sakin sa jollibee at nakakahiya talaga pag di ako makapunta, sabi ko parang sa family first na to ah, because maraming kumalat na balita na pangit ang marketing strategy ng family first, well, having a plan or insurance is good but their means are not.

Sinabi nya ang tungkol sa investment na dapat daw habang bat pa ay nagiipon na at ang lahat ng maiipon ko is for my future and my family, paikot-ikot kami dun sa mga topic na yun at ang sabi pa nya na ang investment daw sa kanila ay 32/a day lang daw or 960 per month at makukuha mo lang cya after 5 years na magkakahalaga ng 175k which is malaki namn talagang halaga, sabi ko di namn po ito sapilitan di ba? ang sabi nya di namn kita pinipilit ah, pinapliwanag ko lang sayu yung mga kagandahan ng savings, sabi ko oo maganda cya pero I cannot decide as of this moment, sabi nya bakit di ka makapgdecide as of this moment kc napepresurre ako at the same time ay may iniisip ako na mga tao na naghihintay sakin, ang sagot nya di kita pinepressure ha?

tapos sinabi ko rin na kailangan ko kc munang iconsult ito sa family ko dahil kasama sila sa budget ko tapos babalik na naman kami dun sa start na ang sabi nya di ba ang savings nyu samin namn ay para sa family nyu at para sa future mo? sabi ko , your motive is good at maganda ang proposal mo pero ayoko at gusto ko ng umalis kc me naghihintay sakin na di ko namamalayan at umiiyak na ako at lumalakas na ang boses ko, Naiiyak ako dahil gusto ko ng umalis pero di nila ako pinapaalis, for me it is unethical kung lalabas na lang ako basta basta, ang sabi ko pa sa kanya ang sabi ni alona (yung girl na nagdala sakin dun at nagapproach sakin sa main entrance) is educational plan ito at pwedeng umalis kahit na anong oras, alam mo ang sabi nya, hindi ito educational plan! so ang sabi ko eh di sinungaling si alona, meron daw clang educational plan but hindi yun ang binebenta nila ngayon.


Sinabi ko pa na ang sabi ni alona I could refer someone na lang kc nga di ko pa namn kailangan ng educational plan kc ala pa akong anak, ang sabi nya gusto mo ba? cla meron at ikaw ay wala? Tapos bumalik na namn kami sa start about sa kahalgahan ng investment.

Then a lady approached us, ang sabi, mam kc pumirma po kc kayo sa 45mins presentation eh kaya patapusin nyu na lang po cya.At sabi nya sa lalaki "Bilisan mo na kc para makaalis na si ma'am"

Tapos balik na naman kami sa start tungkol sa kahalgahan ng investment sa kanila.

Tapos sabi ko kuya di ako masamang tao pero gusto ko na talagang umalis at ayoko talaga ng binebenta nyu!then sabi nya di ko cnasabing masama kang tao ha? Tapos start na naman cya.

Sabi ko kuya, aalis na talaga ako ayoko talaga ng binebenta nyo, kaya pwede ba gusto ko ng umalis.

Tapos ang sabi nya cge wait lang ha, kc me papakiusap ako sayu na tao, sabi ko sino na naman yan? baka naman pipilitin nyu ko ulit sa pagbebenta nyan sa kin, gusto ko ng umuwi,talagang malakas na ang boses ko.

sabi nya hindi daw kc yung pupunta dito ay i-eevaluate daw cya dahil for promotion daw cya at tatanungin ako, sabi ko bilisan nyo lang ha kc gusto ko na talagang umuwi at sabi ko I'll give you 10, tanong nya anong 10? sabi ko 10 out 10 ang rating ko sayu which is 10 is the highest para lang matapos ang lahat.

Tapos tumayo cya at me hinhanap cya at di nya makita ang hinhanap nya, tinwag nya ako at sabi halika ma'am dito na po tayu, sabi kom san nyu na naman ako dadalhin?baka naman tungkol yan sa investment na naman ayoko na gusto ko ng umuwi at sabi nya hindi po dito na po tayu sa exit pauuwiin na kita, tapos nag-log out ako sa logbook nila at bingyan nila ako nh ballpen.


Nang pagdating ko sa escalator at tinanong ang isang mama kung anong oras na ang sabi nya ay 5:30 na at yung cnsabi nilang 45 mins ay umabot ng 1 ang half hour. Yun sa bandang huli di rin kami nagkita ng mga kaklase ko, kakainis talaga!


Ito ang mga napansin ko sa kanila na naisip ko habang nasa bus ako pauwi:


Pag tinanong ka nila kung me credit card ka at tipong nakapormal at marami clang nakaharang sa daaanan, wag ka ng huminto tuloy-tuloy ka na sa dapat mong puntahan dahil once na maharang ka nila at inintertain mo cla, the more na ma-attract ka nila dahil sa galing nila sa pananalita.

Ang Danvil ay family First rin pala, ngayon ko lang nalaman nung nagsearch ako sa internet.

Pag nagtanong ka sa kanila na tipong ayaw mo sa ibinebenta nila ay ibabalik nila ang tanong sayu hanggang sa ikaw ang mapaisip, Yun ang one of their marketing straegies.


Eto pa, pag cnabi mong taga-saan ka sasabihin nila namalapit lang cla dun, sino ba namn ang nakakaalam kung totoo ngang taga doon cya,way nila to para mapalapit ang loob nila sayu.


nag-apply ako sa family first before i graduated sa college nung 2006, aaminin ko na naakit ako sa title ng position nila na "Sales Management Trainee" at for 5-day training na ako at dat tym, sa office nila sa the enterprise tower ayala, makati. Pagdating ko sa bhay pinagalitan ako ng father ko bakit daw ako nagapply dun dahil nga marami ng kuwento na di maganda ang company na yun at first job ko yun if ever.Nalaman ko ngayun na pareho rin pala ang tactics nila sa pagkuha ng client at paghihire ng tao.Bago ang 5-day training sinabi na sa amin ang gagawin namin as part of the team, pag me client dapat tanungin mo muna ang mga personal info nya halimbawa tagasaan ang magulang mo?at halimbawa ang sasabihin ay taga-Bacolod ang dapat daw na sabihin ay ako rin taga-Bacolod,di rin naman malalaman na taga-bacolod ka ba talaga eh, way nila yun para makuha ang loob ng kausap mo.

Magaganda ang mga incentives at motivations nila sa employee nila, me trip for two sa hong kong, bahay at lupa at kotse me pictures pa cla dun sa office nila na yung nagsasalita sa harapan kaya parang maiinspire ka na mag-apply. Kaya cguro di mo rin masisisi ang mga empleyado dun kc pag magdala ka lang dun na dalawang tao sa office nila for 45 mins presentation ay may 20 thousand na agad yung nagdala sayu dun.Yan ay base sa explanation sa min nung kumausap sa amin sa mga newly hire dapat.

Eto pa ang sabi, yung ibang nasa loob na akala mo ay client ay hindi pala, kakuntsaba rin daw nila yun, para maattract ka na kumuha rin kc makikita mo marami ang kumukuha.

Nagtataka lang ako at bakit ito pinahihintulutan ng SM na magoperate sa building nila. Di ako nakatylog ng gabi na yun at ninerbyos ako baka kc me nakuha na cla dun sa account ko, meron din daw kc na kahit di mo binigay ang credit card number mo pag tiningnan lang nila kabisado na nila yun, Kaya tumwag agad ako sa BPI para itanong at iinform din cla. Kaya ingat sa lahat, sa hirap ng buhay ngayon they are using different tactics para makalamang sa kapwa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello, i just want to share my experience regarding Danvil plans</p>
<p>nakakainis talaga yung sa Danvil (ngayon ko lang nalaman na dati pala cyang family first), I don&#8217;t know kung alam ba ng SM management ang pinaggagawa nila.Yesterday (nov 16, 2008) ang maituturing kong pinakamalas na araw ko sa buong buhay ko until now sariwa pa rin sakin ang nangyari.</p>
<p>magkikita kami ng mga college friends ko sa jollibee megamall sa main entrance at exactly 4pm, sa hallway pa lang marami na dung nakauniform or nakaformal attire lalaki at babae, marami cla, then a girl approached mo ang sabi &#8220;ms itatanong ko lang kung me credit card ka na?&#8221;then tinitigan ko cya sabi nya &#8220;wag kang magalala, di ako nagaalok ng credit card, meron lang kc kaming promo na mamimigay ng freebies sa mga visa and mastercard card holders.&#8221; YUng ibibigay namin sanyu na mga payong or mga bags, ala pong bayad yun ito ay para lamang maadvertise ang aming company, pwedeng patingin ng card nyu po?&#8221; pinakita ko yung card, at ang sabi nya ay may raffle promo raw cla at ang grand prize is honda na kotse.Cinongrats pa ako ng mga kasamahan nya.At dat tym sabi ko sa sarili ko hay naku parang family first ito.Pero Danvil naman kc ang name kaya sabi ko iba to.</p>
<p>Then I just thought na pwede namang mamaya na lang after kong i-meet ang friends ko sa jolibee,ang sabi nya cge samahan na kita, tapos ewan ko ba kung bakit di ako makaalis sa kanya at di ako makahindi. Tapos nasa 3rd floor na kami at habang nasa escalator, kinukuwentuhan nya ako kung taga saan ako at nung cnabi ko na taga caloocan ako ang sabi nya taga dun rin daw cya,what a coincidence di ba? pero kasama pala to sa marketing strategy nila,para mailapit ang loob nila sa magiging clients nila. At cnabi pa nya na educational plan ang inaalok nila at ok lang daw na tumanggi kc ala pa raw namn akong anak so di ko kailangan ang educational plan, maybe I could refer someone na mas kailangan nila ang educational plan na yun.</p>
<p>As we were in escalator, sabi ko hindi ito bluff ha? mabilis lang to kc meron pa akong imemeet sa may jollibee,she keeps on saying na sayang naman po ang ang mga prices at me chance pa po kayung manalo ng kotse, ang layu-layo na hanggang sa umabot na kami ng 5th floor or 4th floor, ang sabi ko san na ba? pwede bang mamaya na lang? sabi nya saglit lang po to alam ko naman po na di nyu kailangan ang mga payong at bags eh, hangganga sa makarating kami dun at magugulat ka na ang lahat ng empleyado ay nakapormal attire na kung susuriin mo ay di makakagawa ng mga kasinungalingan at pandaraya sa kapwa.</p>
<p>Pagpasok pa lang makikita mo na maganda ang place at may malaki clang TV na merong movie na pinapalabas. Tapos tinawag na ang name ko at pinapapirma ako dun na ang nakalagay ay na willing akong umattend sa &#8220;45 mins presentation&#8221; so sabi ko pwedeng mamaya na lang kc me pupuntahan pa talaga ako 4pm yun nakita ko sa relo ng babae, ayokong pumirma at tinwag nya yung nagdala sakin dun na ang tawag &#8220;Alona&#8221; na parang ang tono ng boses nya at meaning ng pagkakatawg nya ay ano ba tong recruit mo? Then Alona, approached me na cnabi cge na po ma&#8217;am saglit lang naman to eh, madadala ka talga sa pananalita nila at magagaling clang magsalita na napapirma ako dun. </p>
<p>Si alona ay kinausap ako after kong pumirma ang sabi nya ma&#8217;am galingan nyu po sa pagpindot ha kc kailangan pabilisan lang ang pagpindot para makuha nyu ang instant jackpot na honda mabilis lang po kc nga marami kaming clients.Ang game na cnasabi nya ay yung me 8 numero dun sa itaas dapat sa pagpindot nyo sa baba ay kaytugma nung nandun sa taas, intersting di ba ?kc kotse ang grand prize.</p>
<p>Maya-maya tinawag na ako ng lalaki at kinamayan, dinala ako sa pinaka-office nila at mapapansin mo na marami ang nandun, sa isang table nakaupo ang isang agent at isang prospective client nila.</p>
<p>Dinala ako sa isang bakanteng table at doon ay inumpisahan nya na ang pagpepresent ng company nila.May hawak cyang papel na ang nakalagay ay Philippine Prudential Life Insurance Company,then I asked him affiliate ba cya ng Prudential Life?sabi nya hindi.</p>
<p>Then ininterview nya ako,he approached me as a friend and he was so nice inalok nya pa nga ako ng iced tea,tapos yung takbo ng usapan namin from my personal info ay napunta na dun sa laman ng savings ko at kung anong credit cards meron ako,then sabi ko sa sarili ko once na tinanong nito kung anong number ng account ko talagang mag-wawalk out kc alam kong bawal ibigay ang account number lalo at company cla. So hindi naman nya kinuha ang account number ko pero at that time ninerbiyos na talaga ako,at gusto ko na ring umuwi dahil merong naghihintay sakin sa jollibee at nakakahiya talaga pag di ako makapunta, sabi ko parang sa family first na to ah, because maraming kumalat na balita na pangit ang marketing strategy ng family first, well, having a plan or insurance is good but their means are not.</p>
<p>Sinabi nya ang tungkol sa investment na dapat daw habang bat pa ay nagiipon na at ang lahat ng maiipon ko is for my future and my family, paikot-ikot kami dun sa mga topic na yun at ang sabi pa nya na ang investment daw sa kanila ay 32/a day lang daw or 960 per month at makukuha mo lang cya after 5 years na magkakahalaga ng 175k which is malaki namn talagang halaga, sabi ko di namn po ito sapilitan di ba? ang sabi nya di namn kita pinipilit ah, pinapliwanag ko lang sayu yung mga kagandahan ng savings, sabi ko oo maganda cya pero I cannot decide as of this moment, sabi nya bakit di ka makapgdecide as of this moment kc napepresurre ako at the same time ay may iniisip ako na mga tao na naghihintay sakin, ang sagot nya di kita pinepressure ha?</p>
<p>tapos sinabi ko rin na kailangan ko kc munang iconsult ito sa family ko dahil kasama sila sa budget ko tapos babalik na naman kami dun sa start na ang sabi nya di ba ang savings nyu samin namn ay para sa family nyu at para sa future mo? sabi ko , your motive is good at maganda ang proposal mo pero ayoko at gusto ko ng umalis kc me naghihintay sakin na di ko namamalayan at umiiyak na ako at lumalakas na ang boses ko, Naiiyak ako dahil gusto ko ng umalis pero di nila ako pinapaalis, for me it is unethical kung lalabas na lang ako basta basta, ang sabi ko pa sa kanya ang sabi ni alona (yung girl na nagdala sakin dun at nagapproach sakin sa main entrance) is educational plan ito at pwedeng umalis kahit na anong oras, alam mo ang sabi nya, hindi ito educational plan! so ang sabi ko eh di sinungaling si alona, meron daw clang educational plan but hindi yun ang binebenta nila ngayon.</p>
<p>Sinabi ko pa na ang sabi ni alona I could refer someone na lang kc nga di ko pa namn kailangan ng educational plan kc ala pa akong anak, ang sabi nya gusto mo ba? cla meron at ikaw ay wala? Tapos bumalik na namn kami sa start about sa kahalgahan ng investment.</p>
<p>Then a lady approached us, ang sabi, mam kc pumirma po kc kayo sa 45mins presentation eh kaya patapusin nyu na lang po cya.At sabi nya sa lalaki &#8220;Bilisan mo na kc para makaalis na si ma&#8217;am&#8221;</p>
<p>Tapos balik na naman kami sa start tungkol sa kahalgahan ng investment sa kanila.</p>
<p>Tapos sabi ko kuya di ako masamang tao pero gusto ko na talagang umalis at ayoko talaga ng binebenta nyu!then sabi nya di ko cnasabing masama kang tao ha? Tapos start na naman cya.</p>
<p>Sabi ko kuya, aalis na talaga ako ayoko talaga ng binebenta nyo, kaya pwede ba gusto ko ng umalis.</p>
<p>Tapos ang sabi nya cge wait lang ha, kc me papakiusap ako sayu na tao, sabi ko sino na naman yan? baka naman pipilitin nyu ko ulit sa pagbebenta nyan sa kin, gusto ko ng umuwi,talagang malakas na ang boses ko.</p>
<p>sabi nya hindi daw kc yung pupunta dito ay i-eevaluate daw cya dahil for promotion daw cya at tatanungin ako, sabi ko bilisan nyo lang ha kc gusto ko na talagang umuwi at sabi ko I&#8217;ll give you 10, tanong nya anong 10? sabi ko 10 out 10 ang rating ko sayu which is 10 is the highest para lang matapos ang lahat.</p>
<p>Tapos tumayo cya at me hinhanap cya at di nya makita ang hinhanap nya, tinwag nya ako at sabi halika ma&#8217;am dito na po tayu, sabi kom san nyu na naman ako dadalhin?baka naman tungkol yan sa investment na naman ayoko na gusto ko ng umuwi at sabi nya hindi po dito na po tayu sa exit pauuwiin na kita, tapos nag-log out ako sa logbook nila at bingyan nila ako nh ballpen.</p>
<p>Nang pagdating ko sa escalator at tinanong ang isang mama kung anong oras na ang sabi nya ay 5:30 na at yung cnsabi nilang 45 mins ay umabot ng 1 ang half hour. Yun sa bandang huli di rin kami nagkita ng mga kaklase ko, kakainis talaga!</p>
<p>Ito ang mga napansin ko sa kanila na naisip ko habang nasa bus ako pauwi:</p>
<p>Pag tinanong ka nila kung me credit card ka at tipong nakapormal at marami clang nakaharang sa daaanan, wag ka ng huminto tuloy-tuloy ka na sa dapat mong puntahan dahil once na maharang ka nila at inintertain mo cla, the more na ma-attract ka nila dahil sa galing nila sa pananalita.</p>
<p>Ang Danvil ay family First rin pala, ngayon ko lang nalaman nung nagsearch ako sa internet.</p>
<p>Pag nagtanong ka sa kanila na tipong ayaw mo sa ibinebenta nila ay ibabalik nila ang tanong sayu hanggang sa ikaw ang mapaisip, Yun ang one of their marketing straegies.</p>
<p>Eto pa, pag cnabi mong taga-saan ka sasabihin nila namalapit lang cla dun, sino ba namn ang nakakaalam kung totoo ngang taga doon cya,way nila to para mapalapit ang loob nila sayu.</p>
<p>nag-apply ako sa family first before i graduated sa college nung 2006, aaminin ko na naakit ako sa title ng position nila na &#8220;Sales Management Trainee&#8221; at for 5-day training na ako at dat tym, sa office nila sa the enterprise tower ayala, makati. Pagdating ko sa bhay pinagalitan ako ng father ko bakit daw ako nagapply dun dahil nga marami ng kuwento na di maganda ang company na yun at first job ko yun if ever.Nalaman ko ngayun na pareho rin pala ang tactics nila sa pagkuha ng client at paghihire ng tao.Bago ang 5-day training sinabi na sa amin ang gagawin namin as part of the team, pag me client dapat tanungin mo muna ang mga personal info nya halimbawa tagasaan ang magulang mo?at halimbawa ang sasabihin ay taga-Bacolod ang dapat daw na sabihin ay ako rin taga-Bacolod,di rin naman malalaman na taga-bacolod ka ba talaga eh, way nila yun para makuha ang loob ng kausap mo.</p>
<p>Magaganda ang mga incentives at motivations nila sa employee nila, me trip for two sa hong kong, bahay at lupa at kotse me pictures pa cla dun sa office nila na yung nagsasalita sa harapan kaya parang maiinspire ka na mag-apply. Kaya cguro di mo rin masisisi ang mga empleyado dun kc pag magdala ka lang dun na dalawang tao sa office nila for 45 mins presentation ay may 20 thousand na agad yung nagdala sayu dun.Yan ay base sa explanation sa min nung kumausap sa amin sa mga newly hire dapat.</p>
<p>Eto pa ang sabi, yung ibang nasa loob na akala mo ay client ay hindi pala, kakuntsaba rin daw nila yun, para maattract ka na kumuha rin kc makikita mo marami ang kumukuha.</p>
<p>Nagtataka lang ako at bakit ito pinahihintulutan ng SM na magoperate sa building nila. Di ako nakatylog ng gabi na yun at ninerbyos ako baka kc me nakuha na cla dun sa account ko, meron din daw kc na kahit di mo binigay ang credit card number mo pag tiningnan lang nila kabisado na nila yun, Kaya tumwag agad ako sa BPI para itanong at iinform din cla. Kaya ingat sa lahat, sa hirap ng buhay ngayon they are using different tactics para makalamang sa kapwa.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald</title>
		<link>http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2008/06/17/consumer-fraud-reporting/#comment-272684</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi pips, plan holders mga parents ko but my dad is in abroad and my mother doesnt have the capacity to transact kc malabo mata nya. how can we cancel the plan? nagbayad na sila upto 2 years, makukuha pa pba ung full refund? please help naman po.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi pips, plan holders mga parents ko but my dad is in abroad and my mother doesnt have the capacity to transact kc malabo mata nya. how can we cancel the plan? nagbayad na sila upto 2 years, makukuha pa pba ung full refund? please help naman po.</p>
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		<title>By: jc BUERANO</title>
		<link>http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2008/06/17/consumer-fraud-reporting/#comment-272436</link>
		<dc:creator>jc BUERANO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ,
     I would like to share my personal experience regarding my 10year plan with FAMILY FIRST/ DANVIL with reflectivity date: march 18 2000 &#38; MATURITY DATE: March 2010, the plan has a gross price of 117,000.00 with MATURITY Amount of 150,000.00. 
     Very recently (OCT 14, 2008), at MEGAMALL 5th level where I frequently visit their office, the THE STATEMENT of ACCOUNT I received showed that  I already paid 101,700.00 and a balance of 15,300.00 to complete my policy. 
But they have debited three (3) 900.00 pesos on my UNION BANK account last Sept 19 2008. The problem is:
1.  the withdrawal was made but did not reflect on my S.O.A
2.  no body could tell me where my money went.
3. they always promise to give us a call &#38; updated receipts which never came.
4.I have to go to their office during regular working hours just to have a negative answer.
5. They point to someone who holds the collection which they cannot even tell who?
6. How could I get my investments back to pay for the college education of my children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ,<br />
     I would like to share my personal experience regarding my 10year plan with FAMILY FIRST/ DANVIL with reflectivity date: march 18 2000 &amp; MATURITY DATE: March 2010, the plan has a gross price of 117,000.00 with MATURITY Amount of 150,000.00.<br />
     Very recently (OCT 14, 2008), at MEGAMALL 5th level where I frequently visit their office, the THE STATEMENT of ACCOUNT I received showed that  I already paid 101,700.00 and a balance of 15,300.00 to complete my policy.<br />
But they have debited three (3) 900.00 pesos on my UNION BANK account last Sept 19 2008. The problem is:<br />
1.  the withdrawal was made but did not reflect on my S.O.A<br />
2.  no body could tell me where my money went.<br />
3. they always promise to give us a call &amp; updated receipts which never came.<br />
4.I have to go to their office during regular working hours just to have a negative answer.<br />
5. They point to someone who holds the collection which they cannot even tell who?<br />
6. How could I get my investments back to pay for the college education of my children?</p>
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		<title>By: syners</title>
		<link>http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2008/06/17/consumer-fraud-reporting/#comment-271853</link>
		<dc:creator>syners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Philip! I just visited this site today because I don't have time to search d net. OMG! I'm really confused and worried now after reading all these blogs about Danvil. I am an OFW here in Canada. I paid a large initial payment to Danvil during my vacation in the Phil. To date I almost paid around 200,000.00.Do I have to cancel my plan or continue. I tried to invest because I am preparing for my retirement. I am worried that I have nothing when I will finally retire in d Philippines nx yr. Danvil Plans is the only investment I've got while working in Canada as caregiver-Nurse.pls need ur advise. thanks!!I haven't receive yet a letter informing me re: transfer of policy to Legacy. PLs reply asap. I might have a heart attack worrying!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Philip! I just visited this site today because I don&#8217;t have time to search d net. OMG! I&#8217;m really confused and worried now after reading all these blogs about Danvil. I am an OFW here in Canada. I paid a large initial payment to Danvil during my vacation in the Phil. To date I almost paid around 200,000.00.Do I have to cancel my plan or continue. I tried to invest because I am preparing for my retirement. I am worried that I have nothing when I will finally retire in d Philippines nx yr. Danvil Plans is the only investment I&#8217;ve got while working in Canada as caregiver-Nurse.pls need ur advise. thanks!!I haven&#8217;t receive yet a letter informing me re: transfer of policy to Legacy. PLs reply asap. I might have a heart attack worrying!!!</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2008/06/17/consumer-fraud-reporting/#comment-271479</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to share my experience with this Danvil Plans, I was in the same situation last night. Naasar tlga ako sa kanila. They were forcing me to avail their plan. Sabi nila 45 minutes lang daw ung session but it took us 2 hours. It was a complete waste of time!!!

At first, I was talking to their presenter. She explained to me too much information that I could no longer understand some of them. Pero ung pinaka-natatandaan ko sa kanya ay ung paulit-ulit nyang pagpilit saken ng idea nya on “how to save money”. Despite of all the “sales talk” that she threw at me, she still wasn’t able to convince me. I told her that I am not going to avail their plan and that I will seek advice first from a friend which is a bank officer. But then she told me that this is a one-time opportunity and I can no longer go back to their office after that session (which really sounded “scam” to me).

They were even insisting me to give them my credit cards... they will just verify daw with the bank if I am eligible for their plan. That time, I already sensed something really bad! It is a trick! Naisip ko kagad, after i-swipe un credit card then that’s it! I have already fallen in their bait! The card will get charged of the starting amount. Buti na lang hnde ako nadala sa mga pinagsasabi nila. I refused to give my card and insisted not to avail their offer. 

When she finally gave up, she then passed me to his supervisor. I told myself “finally this will come to an end”. But when her supervisor approached me, he told me that he is going to evaluate the performance of the presenter…and guess what?...he started explaining again everything  what the presenter told me and he again offered me the plan which I again refused. In short, more talks happened and I told him that those were the same thing that the presenter told me and he is just repeating everything. But he still insisted the offer (sobrang makulit!).

He then asked me why I refused to avail the plan. I told him that I prefer investing my money directly on a bank through my savings account since this is where I am more comfortable of doing it. But guess what the supervisor replied to me…he quoted “…if we always stay in our comfort zone… we’ll never grow!...”. Natawa na lang ako sa sinabi nya…hahaha…Does anyone would invest their money on something that they aren’t comfortable or something that they aren’t sure of? Hey…COMMON SENSE!...(cguro sadyang naubusan na sya ng masabi para maipilit ung insurance nya)

The worst thing that this rude supervisor did is he raised his voice at me and told me “Magulo ka!” after I reiterated to him my preference on how to save my money. Then another dirty tactic came in, he questioned my capacity to pay. He told me that I cannot afford their lowest plan that’s why I’m not accepting their offer. That made up my mind to no longer prolong the conversation. I told him that I want to go out now. I already felt that I am being bullied to buy something that I am not interested of. 

I told them that I had enough and it is already late and I want to go out of the room. Pero sadyang makulit ‘tong supervisor na to… he then offered me a lower amount plan!... Naasar na tlga ako..and I told him directly “I am not interested!” (sabay kunot ng noo).

Within that 2 hours in the room, there's an agent that was able to close out a deal with her customer. It was announced loudly by another agent. I hope the customer accepted that offer with her whole heart and not because she was forced to sign it. 

My Message To Danvil: 
You are bragging that you are in the top 5 insurance companies in the Philippines. But you are forcing your clients to avail your plans... is this what keeps you on top? You, Danvil agents, are bunch of losers! 

Also, just a thought… if there were reports of this anomaly happening within the establishment of SM Malls…why does SM management still keeps them around? This type of tenant is ruining the reputation of SM Mall. (From now on, iiwasan ko na lng dumaan sa part ng SM North na un sa may banding Cyberzone because of this bad experience.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to share my experience with this Danvil Plans, I was in the same situation last night. Naasar tlga ako sa kanila. They were forcing me to avail their plan. Sabi nila 45 minutes lang daw ung session but it took us 2 hours. It was a complete waste of time!!!</p>
<p>At first, I was talking to their presenter. She explained to me too much information that I could no longer understand some of them. Pero ung pinaka-natatandaan ko sa kanya ay ung paulit-ulit nyang pagpilit saken ng idea nya on “how to save money”. Despite of all the “sales talk” that she threw at me, she still wasn’t able to convince me. I told her that I am not going to avail their plan and that I will seek advice first from a friend which is a bank officer. But then she told me that this is a one-time opportunity and I can no longer go back to their office after that session (which really sounded “scam” to me).</p>
<p>They were even insisting me to give them my credit cards&#8230; they will just verify daw with the bank if I am eligible for their plan. That time, I already sensed something really bad! It is a trick! Naisip ko kagad, after i-swipe un credit card then that’s it! I have already fallen in their bait! The card will get charged of the starting amount. Buti na lang hnde ako nadala sa mga pinagsasabi nila. I refused to give my card and insisted not to avail their offer. </p>
<p>When she finally gave up, she then passed me to his supervisor. I told myself “finally this will come to an end”. But when her supervisor approached me, he told me that he is going to evaluate the performance of the presenter…and guess what?&#8230;he started explaining again everything  what the presenter told me and he again offered me the plan which I again refused. In short, more talks happened and I told him that those were the same thing that the presenter told me and he is just repeating everything. But he still insisted the offer (sobrang makulit!).</p>
<p>He then asked me why I refused to avail the plan. I told him that I prefer investing my money directly on a bank through my savings account since this is where I am more comfortable of doing it. But guess what the supervisor replied to me…he quoted “…if we always stay in our comfort zone… we’ll never grow!&#8230;”. Natawa na lang ako sa sinabi nya…hahaha…Does anyone would invest their money on something that they aren’t comfortable or something that they aren’t sure of? Hey…COMMON SENSE!&#8230;(cguro sadyang naubusan na sya ng masabi para maipilit ung insurance nya)</p>
<p>The worst thing that this rude supervisor did is he raised his voice at me and told me “Magulo ka!” after I reiterated to him my preference on how to save my money. Then another dirty tactic came in, he questioned my capacity to pay. He told me that I cannot afford their lowest plan that’s why I’m not accepting their offer. That made up my mind to no longer prolong the conversation. I told him that I want to go out now. I already felt that I am being bullied to buy something that I am not interested of. </p>
<p>I told them that I had enough and it is already late and I want to go out of the room. Pero sadyang makulit ‘tong supervisor na to… he then offered me a lower amount plan!&#8230; Naasar na tlga ako..and I told him directly “I am not interested!” (sabay kunot ng noo).</p>
<p>Within that 2 hours in the room, there&#8217;s an agent that was able to close out a deal with her customer. It was announced loudly by another agent. I hope the customer accepted that offer with her whole heart and not because she was forced to sign it. </p>
<p>My Message To Danvil:<br />
You are bragging that you are in the top 5 insurance companies in the Philippines. But you are forcing your clients to avail your plans&#8230; is this what keeps you on top? You, Danvil agents, are bunch of losers! </p>
<p>Also, just a thought… if there were reports of this anomaly happening within the establishment of SM Malls…why does SM management still keeps them around? This type of tenant is ruining the reputation of SM Mall. (From now on, iiwasan ko na lng dumaan sa part ng SM North na un sa may banding Cyberzone because of this bad experience.)</p>
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		<title>By: twinsis</title>
		<link>http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2008/06/17/consumer-fraud-reporting/#comment-270788</link>
		<dc:creator>twinsis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 08:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is scary. my husband started paying family first when we were still boyfriend/girlfriend and now the plan is over and entire payment was deducted from his monthly salary. can we still get the amount in full?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is scary. my husband started paying family first when we were still boyfriend/girlfriend and now the plan is over and entire payment was deducted from his monthly salary. can we still get the amount in full?</p>
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		<title>By: Shacqy</title>
		<link>http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2008/06/17/consumer-fraud-reporting/#comment-266925</link>
		<dc:creator>Shacqy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pipz, nasa sm malss pa ba mga danvil devil after the probe team? wla na kasi akong update sa kanila cause im from Iloilo City and im also one of their victim during my vacation in manila last june.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pipz, nasa sm malss pa ba mga danvil devil after the probe team? wla na kasi akong update sa kanila cause im from Iloilo City and im also one of their victim during my vacation in manila last june.</p>
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		<title>By: silentkiller</title>
		<link>http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2008/06/17/consumer-fraud-reporting/#comment-252329</link>
		<dc:creator>silentkiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sus kagabi ko lang nalaman sa asawa ko nabiktima rin pala sya sa sm,mga halang na mga bituka nitong mga to ang lufet,d kya nila iniisip kung tumaob na lang sila bgla sa daan,tandaan nyo may mga pamilya rin kayo kawawa maiiwan nyo sa buhay.,hindi ako nananakot!? "NAGBABANTA TALGA AKO" dapat sa inyo ubusin na dto sa mundo lahat ng mga corrupt mga scammer dpat sa mga taong to patayin na,ano sa tingin nyo...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sus kagabi ko lang nalaman sa asawa ko nabiktima rin pala sya sa sm,mga halang na mga bituka nitong mga to ang lufet,d kya nila iniisip kung tumaob na lang sila bgla sa daan,tandaan nyo may mga pamilya rin kayo kawawa maiiwan nyo sa buhay.,hindi ako nananakot!? &#8220;NAGBABANTA TALGA AKO&#8221; dapat sa inyo ubusin na dto sa mundo lahat ng mga corrupt mga scammer dpat sa mga taong to patayin na,ano sa tingin nyo&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: yankumi</title>
		<link>http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2008/06/17/consumer-fraud-reporting/#comment-252326</link>
		<dc:creator>yankumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i used to be part of BErkley Life's start up team...back then Berkley and Family First had an entirely different set of officers and staff...berkley was run by a Filipino team,while the Family First team was run mostly by Kiwi expats...iba ang ugali at culture nila ever since, while we were supposed to be the mother company..all the officers and staff of Family First earned more than us...as in they were permanently billeted in Shangrila Makati and in dollars  ang pay nila ... yung mga expats ang nagspearhead ng training ng Family First Sales Team...mind you even kami na taga Berkley kinukulit nila to buy plans from them...even with all the complaints, mayabang pa rin sila to claim that there were indeed valid sales  kasi they had the account authorization  and signatures of the planholders/victims

word of advice to all victims and would-be victims, the best defense is to simply  ignore them...or if andun na kayo sa office nila lumayas kayo...and never never give your atm and credit cards to them...ika nga nila kayo naman ang nagabot nun sa knila...hindi naman nila ninakaw sa wallet nyo...

i left them when the merger between Berkley and Family First was finalized...as in pagbalik ko from a seminar e biglang nag merge na pala with Family First as the surviving entities...i opted to leave..that was also the time that they were engulfed with so many complaints from hoy gising/ted failon...i knew about the details of the rigging fiasco...to put it simply, i left bec i want to work for a company i'm proud of

 i still have friendswho are still connected with Danvil/Legacy Plans...they have been with the company for 11 years and to be fair...they are decent and civil people...hindi barubal tulad nung self proclaimed PR defender nila..there are laways polite and professional  ways of handling complaints without attacking their person</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i used to be part of BErkley Life&#8217;s start up team&#8230;back then Berkley and Family First had an entirely different set of officers and staff&#8230;berkley was run by a Filipino team,while the Family First team was run mostly by Kiwi expats&#8230;iba ang ugali at culture nila ever since, while we were supposed to be the mother company..all the officers and staff of Family First earned more than us&#8230;as in they were permanently billeted in Shangrila Makati and in dollars  ang pay nila &#8230; yung mga expats ang nagspearhead ng training ng Family First Sales Team&#8230;mind you even kami na taga Berkley kinukulit nila to buy plans from them&#8230;even with all the complaints, mayabang pa rin sila to claim that there were indeed valid sales  kasi they had the account authorization  and signatures of the planholders/victims</p>
<p>word of advice to all victims and would-be victims, the best defense is to simply  ignore them&#8230;or if andun na kayo sa office nila lumayas kayo&#8230;and never never give your atm and credit cards to them&#8230;ika nga nila kayo naman ang nagabot nun sa knila&#8230;hindi naman nila ninakaw sa wallet nyo&#8230;</p>
<p>i left them when the merger between Berkley and Family First was finalized&#8230;as in pagbalik ko from a seminar e biglang nag merge na pala with Family First as the surviving entities&#8230;i opted to leave..that was also the time that they were engulfed with so many complaints from hoy gising/ted failon&#8230;i knew about the details of the rigging fiasco&#8230;to put it simply, i left bec i want to work for a company i&#8217;m proud of</p>
<p> i still have friendswho are still connected with Danvil/Legacy Plans&#8230;they have been with the company for 11 years and to be fair&#8230;they are decent and civil people&#8230;hindi barubal tulad nung self proclaimed PR defender nila..there are laways polite and professional  ways of handling complaints without attacking their person</p>
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		<title>By: Shacqy</title>
		<link>http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2008/06/17/consumer-fraud-reporting/#comment-251912</link>
		<dc:creator>Shacqy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>post nyo ung PROBE sa youtube!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post nyo ung PROBE sa youtube!</p>
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