Comments on: The Violent Dispersal of Students in the Mendiola Lightning Rally

By: maris

maris — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:00:44 +0000

i agree with mario. i don’t get the logic of being “peaceful” and thentrying to enter force their way into the gates. If they wanted a peaceful rally, then they could have done it somewhere else. problem is, kung sa ibang area sila nagrally, walang media attention eh yun naman kase ung gusto nila.

By: mario

mario — Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:52:17 +0000

me permissible place para mag-rally. that demonstration was done in a restricted area and and without permit. no chance to exercise maximum tolerance when the crowd becomes unruly.

By: bikoy

bikoy — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:55:40 +0000

it doesn’t debunk the principle that the police, having the armed advantage, are required to exercise maximum tolerance and use the least force possible, or at most an equal force as the offense, in preventing any danger, which has to be real and impending, not imagined–a danger unarmed chanting students did not pose. your speculations will simply not defend the police’s brutality in court.
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By: :)

:) — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:29:45 +0000

hahaha…anu un???ehh diba nga dapat makikipag negotiation muna yung mga pnp at psg bago gumamit ng force??ehh ang nang yari pag ka pasok ng mga estudyante ehh binugbog na lang sila bigla…panoorin mo kasi yung video…wala namang mga dalang nakakasakit yung mga batang yun ehh..you do not condone the acts of violence that the pnp and psg comitted??haha dahil sa kadahilanan mong d sila sigurado kung may mga armas nga yung mga estudyante??ehh nahuli na nga yung iba binubug-bog pa ehh di pa rin ba sila sigurado kung may armas nga yung mga nahuli nila??para gamitan pa ng dahas??mag isip-isip ka nga ng mabuti bago ka mag salita…both parties went way out of line???panoorin mo kasi yung video paatras na kaya yung mga estudyante nung pinag gugulpi sila..

By: BrianB

BrianB — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 23:10:24 +0000

Bikoy, that surprise rally and intrusion into palace grounds was planned to provoke the guards to shoot. I have no doubt about it. If they only want to hold peaceful protest, why not hold it outside the palace or where it is permissible, and why not invite other protesters.

They wanted to catch the guards by surprise in the hopes that the guards will open fire. The protesters themselves may not realize this but ginamit lang sila. Canon fodder. Good thing the guards didn’t when they should’ve.

By: pinoygossipboy

pinoygossipboy — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:14:31 +0000

I concur. Naks naman, prumaproperty na si Bikoy.
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By: mark

mark — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:20:03 +0000

i can agree no less with bikoy. true enough, both sides had crossed the line. but the mere fact that it was the youth’s sector they were violent against is already an act to contrary to the oath they swore to protect.

By: pehpot

pehpot — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:29:57 +0000

clearly, the pictures shows how tolerant the police are…

uy I can picture your rally era.. ang cute no, kunyari love birds, aktibista pala

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By: bikoy

bikoy — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:09:39 +0000

It is not fantasy, it is based on law and jurisprudence. Policemen are not allowed to employ force beyond what is necessary to prevent any real and impending danger. Unarmed students marching and chanting does not pose a danger that deserves state violence. If you spread your kind of thinking, we’ll be having kuratong baleleng incidents left and right. Police will have a field day beating up and killing alleged criminals without due process, putting innocent citizens in harms way.

And, huh? Police brutality happening in Europe does not validate or legitimize the acts of unnecessary police violence.
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By: bikoy

bikoy — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:04:26 +0000

you were there? you sure these were the “same” rallyists? this is such a lame attempt at tarnishing the rights of the students to justify the violence the police employed. they are two different events. using these reasons prove the bankruptcy of your assertions. stick to the point.
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