Ethical Blogging

Noemi Lardizabal-Dado   Thursday, August 09, 2007   71 Comments on Ethical Blogging

Updated

This entry was set to private after Alan Ocab & I talked in August 20, 2007 because we felt that the issue should die down quietly. (Click here for more details) . I decided to bring it back after someone questioned my removal without an explanation. Here it is:

It was not my intention to hurt the boy or his family. I apologized to the father and apologies were accepted. However, I explained the purpose of my entry. I mentioned that authorship of the entries posted in his blog should be cited clearly and not posted at the bottom of the entry. It wasn’t my intention to even mention the name but overzealous bloggers decided to spill it out.

At the time I wrote the post, it was not clear who the authors were of some entries. It was made to appear that Carl wrote the entries because the guest authors or bloggers were not cited. I know Carl wrote some of them but not all and it was not clear. As of today, the guest authors (the byline) are now clearly shown after the title of the entry. Hope that clears the matter.

Alan Ocab and I understood each other and that is all that matters.

Responsible bloggers recognize that they are publishing words for everyone to read. Does it follow that they have certain ethical obligations to their readers, the people they write about, and society in general ? The blog’s greatest strength, particularly its uncensored and uncontrolled voice, is deemed its greatest weakness. Most bloggers are against anything that constrain their freedom. But most bloggers also know that The blogosphere runs on customs and norms – on what the community feels is acceptable (The cost of ethics: Influence peddling in the blogosphere). I presume most of you know the common sense rules on the Bloggers’ Code of Ethics . Whatever ethics in real life applies in cyberspace, right?

Now what happens when you face a suspicion that the person who created a blog is misinterpreting the facts?

I don’t care if you are a man pretending to be woman or a prime time woman assuming a young woman’s persona. What infuriates me is when a parent uses their minor child to create a blog and misrepresent some facts! (This is not the same thing as Cessky Pooh where the dad clearly states that his daughter is the voice of the blog.) What gets to me is that it’s unfair to the child. Do I continue to be a spectator of this modern day “The Emperor’s New Clothes”? Some of you just like me willingly share in a collective ignorance of an obvious fact, despite individually recognizing the absurdity. I can’t blame you but think harder.

Is this morally right?

Should I ignore?

Dedmahan?

A few of you know who I am talking about. A few of you raised your suspicions to me . I could easily turn a blind eye just so I don’t rock the boat. In the end, my conscience took control of my “Emperor New Clothes” thinking.

I probed and asked one blogger after he talked with the child and the parent blogger. Guess what he said?

The secret of the blog is the parent. The parent taught the child and then the child writes . So it’s really the child writing.

Huh?

That’s absurd.

It’s still not the child’s blog.

First of all, what kind of values is the parent instilling to the child that fudging the truth is OK?

Secondly, what happens to the child? The child grows up confused and cannot meet people’s unrealistic expectations. The truth will come out sooner or later.

What next?

We continue to adhere to ethical blogging standards.

The moral standards which guide us in real life should be the same standards that we observe in cyberspace. There should be no dichotomy.

Therefore, moral values like honesty, adherence to truth and respect for other people (even your minor child) should also be observed in cyberspace.

I cannot condone blogs like this. There is no fault on the innocent child. Gosh, it’s an insult to my intelligence that some people expect me to believe blindly a questionable circumstance.

I cannot turn a blind eye and ignore an obvious falsehood. This type of blog is not acceptable to the blogosphere.

Pray tell me, would you do this to your own child?

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Noemi Lardizabal-Dado (1346 Posts)

You may contact Noemi (noemidado @ gmail.com) for speaking and consultancy services in the following areas: Parenting in the Digital Age (includes pro-active parenting on cyber-bullying and bullying) ; Social Business ; Reinventing One’s Life; and social media engagement. Our parenting workshop is called "Prep to Prime (P2P): Parenting in the Digital Age (An Un­Workshop)" P2P Un­Workshops are conducted by two golden women in their prime, Noemi and Jane, who have a century’s worth of experience between them. They are both accomplished professionals who chose to become homemakers. This 180­degree turn also put them on a different life course which includes blogging, social media engagement and citizen advocacy. They call their un­workshops Prep to Prime or P2P, for short, to emphasize the breadth of their parenting experience. They tackle different aspects and issues of parenting ­­ from managing pregnancies, prepping for the school years of children, dealing with househelp, managing the household budget, to maximizing one’s prime life and staying healthy through the senior years.


About Noemi Lardizabal-Dado

You may contact Noemi (noemidado @ gmail.com) for speaking and consultancy services in the following areas: Parenting in the Digital Age (includes pro-active parenting on cyber-bullying and bullying) ; Social Business ; Reinventing One’s Life; and social media engagement. Our parenting workshop is called "Prep to Prime (P2P): Parenting in the Digital Age (An Un­Workshop)" P2P Un­Workshops are conducted by two golden women in their prime, Noemi and Jane, who have a century’s worth of experience between them. They are both accomplished professionals who chose to become homemakers. This 180­degree turn also put them on a different life course which includes blogging, social media engagement and citizen advocacy. They call their un­workshops Prep to Prime or P2P, for short, to emphasize the breadth of their parenting experience. They tackle different aspects and issues of parenting ­­ from managing pregnancies, prepping for the school years of children, dealing with househelp, managing the household budget, to maximizing one’s prime life and staying healthy through the senior years.

The comments posted on my blog are moderated. I reserve the right to remove comments, words or phrases that are defamatory, abusive, incite hatred and advertise an email address or commercial services or just plain spammy. I also reserve the right to remove posts that to my opinion are off-topic, irrelevant, ad-hominem, personal attacks and or just plain rude.
  • http://tesstermulo.com Prudence

    I think I know which blog you are referring to. Yup, an exchange of some words did convince me that the blog isn’t that of the kid. But I don’t think we can do anything about it. It’s their personal lives, after all. One thing we could do, though, is stop visiting the blog. That’s about it. Yeah, it’s sad that it happens. Maybe the problem is that of perception. In this case, the parent doesn’t seem to perceive it as deception, but rather a curious way to market himself in the blogosphere.

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @prudence- We can’t do anything about it now because there is a child to protect. I am just stating my stand and hope it doesn’t happen to any child in the future.

  • http://atheista.net benj

    I just find it really funny. How did they blow their cover?! 😛 links please. Hehe

  • http://www.alleba.com/blog/ Andrew

    I know who this is and I’ve been suspecting it for a long time. You hit the nail right on the head!!

  • http://riajose.wordpress.com Ria Jose

    I agree that the morals we follow for other aspects of our lives should be the same morals we should adhere to when we blog.

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @benj- obvious ba?

    @andrew- thanks. I thought about this really carefully. I am not imagining things and so did the others

    @ria jose- right! We uphold the same morals.

  • http://baklaako.com Baklang AJ

    Hmmm… I think I know who this is. And I agree with you, the child will have a difficult time figuring out his own sense of self. Haaay. The things that some people do…

  • http://feistymomma.com dexie

    it’s just amazing what people do these days. geez.

    good for you for taking the stand.

  • http://dine.racoma.com.ph SexyMom

    You posed the question–will I do it to my own child? No, because I would not like to put my child on the spot, under the probing eyes of intelligent people. What moral values will I be emulating to my children if I live by this standard–if I deceive, if I misrepresent, and if I use my child as a willing victim?

    Just to put it on record–I am smart, I am intelligent, and I know when there is deception. No way will I be taken for a ride.

    Tickle your imagination: what does a teenager talk about? what are the interests of a teenager ? and how does a teenager talk? oh well, this teenager is not a “mikki fudolig”.

  • http://misteryosa.com/ Shari

    Friends and I have been talking about it since the blog became a hit. I’ve always said that I don’t believe for a moment that the kid is the one who blogs, or that if he does, the kid’s parent/s make/s him do it.

    I’ve gone as far as saying that he has no life. And meeting them proved me right.

    I’m glad you made a stand. It’s sad that this has to happen, and we can only hope that it doesn’t happen again.

  • http://mysoulfulthoughts.blogspot.com/ Rach

    I seem to be in the dark here and don’t know who that person is but I think it’s sad when a child is being used in such a way you described.

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @baklang AJ- it was more the child that I took pity of.

    @Sexy Mom- We can’t be fooled. The thing is I had to consider the feelings of the kid. But in the end, I thought…heck the kid is going to suffer more with my silence.

    @Shari- I know everyone knew. But I also know you are respectful of people. “Rocking the boat” might put us in a bad light. Yes,the purpose is so that it won’t happen again . Also, in the future if something happens, speak up. Silence also means being an accomplice to this dishonesty.

    @Rach- yes i was sad…that’s why I had to make it known. We can’t allow parents to do this to their child.

  • http://one-twentyone.com lady cess

    ^ me too. i dont what is this blog youre referring to, but id sure like to read it and see things for myself. curious ako 😉

    about your question — nooooo!

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  • http://www.manilamom.com Manila Mom

    Hmm, I think I have my suspicions on who you’re referring to and if I’m right, I’ve been fooled. I really thought the child was doing everything. This is so sad if true. I hope the child is not scarred for life by the deception.

  • http://paraz.com Miguel

    Another factor is GREED. I googled for the father’s name, and all sorts of internet marketing crap came out. Maybe blogger senior is bribing junior with all this dubiously earned wealth.

  • http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com Eugene

    Hmmm… interesting. Minor blogger according to Noemi. Hit blogger according to Shari. I don’t know which blog this is exactly and I don’t read any minor’s blog. But those two clues seem to pinpoint only one blog. Can I dare I say “influential” blog? 🙂

    If I’m correct, then that’s really bad of the parent. Pineperahan ang anak. And under false pretenses to boot. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @manila mom- don’t be swayed with what I wrote. You be the judge. This entry is just my stand. In fact, I didn’t expect anyone to comment

    @Miguel- whoa. That’s so sick. Greed? It’s despicable.

    @Eugene- The false pretense is the clincher. Especially since the kid is affected.

  • http://atheista.net benj

    Shari’s dad is coaching her! I knew it. Lol.

  • lemon

    Ms Noemi,

    I think I know who you’re referring to. It’s just so sad and pathetic how a parent can do this to his own child.

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  • http://www.brinknotes.org Jeric

    Now, I know who’s this ! Hmmm… I’ve thinking about this also.

  • http://www.brinknotes.org Jeric

    I’ve *BEEN* thinking about this also. 🙂 And by the way, I don’t think that a 13-year old boy who just started blogging last summer would right away blog about MAKING MONEY thru the net. Hmmm…

  • http://www.taintedsong.com Joni

    This makes a lot of sense! I had my doubts since the day I heard about that blog too. I thought that was just me. 😀

  • http://www.homeworked.blogspot.com raqgold

    like rach, am in the dark here. i dont know what blog you’re talking about but i admire you for taking a stand. i guess that blog would get more hits with this negative publicity, but let’s hope the kid wont be hurt. i hope the parents would take this chance to look within themselves and take appropriate actions before it is too late.

  • http://scroochchronicles.blogspot.com/ Kongkong622

    I figured you were talking about “that” blog. The title itself is kinda dubious. When you start reading, things get scary. I mean, really, a kid…doing this..and that? Possible, yes. Fair, no way!

  • http://http:/www.ode2old.blogspot.com annamanila

    I heard about this .. but haven’t really checked out the site nor the posts. So I reserve my opinion.

  • http://www.ironwulf.net Ferdz

    Honestly I don’t know whose blog is this minor is, but as a parent of the one you are referring to. It’s like depriving your child’s own voice. Yes she/he writes but it’s mechanical since the parent is the idea behind it.

  • http://www.pinoyblogero.com Karlo.PinoyBlogero

    Me and my friend have been speculating about this ever since the blog has become such a hit.

    We even joked about it telling everyone that it is a conspiracy theory. It seems that our speculation was right all along!

    I feel sorry for the kid. Instead of spreading his own voice, he ends up using the voice of his dad.

  • http://teacherjulie.com julie

    Hmmm…This is interesting…I have been urging my daughter to write posts in the blog that we prepared but she is not ready yet. But to write for her? That would be irrespective of her right not just as a writer/blogger but as a person.

  • http://silkenhut.com/blog Allen

    Finally, someone breaks the silence. I guess a lot of people were suspicious but without enough evidence, no one speaks out. ^_^

  • Hari Skwatir

    If we haven’t got a substantial proof, I think it’s still fair to give the kid the benefit of our doubt. Afterall, blogging about “money making” is no mystery these days. All you have to do is visit similar blogs and mimic them.

  • http://aileenapolo.blogspot.com Aileen Apolo

    My son is a teenager and I know how he writes. From day 1 I knew it was quite obvious who was doing the writing. I’m teaching my child to blog, but on his own terms and based on his own interest. Oh well… 🙂

  • http://www.tingog.com Nick

    Intriguing, and almost too obvious. And to think, he’s an influential blog?

    But if it’s too good to be true, as the saying goes.. then it’s usually isn’t..

    Now, if it had been the likes of Matt of WordPress fame, who had some street credentials to hang on, and is still young, although, not 13 years old, then I would have believed it.

    Just like those millionaires selling books on making millions, the only reason they’re millionaires is because of the book, not their strategy.. I’m not saying it’s bad to sell books, but as a previous comment said.. if its under false pretense..

    tsk tsk tsk… poor kid.

  • http://www.manuelviloria.com ManuelV

    Wait… it’s really the teener writing? As in, *all* the posts?

    For the longest time, I thought the parent was the one writing all of the ebiz posts in that blog.

    If the teener was the one who really wrote all those posts, then all I can say is he sure can write!

    Who knows? Maybe he’s the one ghostwriting for his dad. He probably just used his dad’s persona in the past, so that he’d be taken seriously online.

    Later on, he probably realized he was better off just being himself.

    Ahem. 😉

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @lemon- greed is the motivation but don’t they realize how much harm is being done to their child. The child lives in the identity of the parent.

    @jeric- poor child. But as a parent, they should know this is the best for their child. Maybe in their own way of thinking, this is the best for them.

    @ferdz- the child will sooner or later know this is wrong. But since he is young, they are taught to obey their parents.

    @karlo- They should tell his loyal followers to stop defending them. The issue will just get bigger and bigger.

    @julie- yes we help them with setting up the blog. It’s unthinkable for parents to actually write for their child. And for whose glory? whose fame?

    @allen – i spoke to the child in front of Dine as witness. the child could barely talk of the topic I asked.

    @Hari- in fact i said to myself, i should give the child the benefit of the doubt. I actually talked to the child .

    @aileen- you of all people know what a young boy’s voice sounds like. Sure there are kids who are ultra gifted but still they take time to talk of other mundane topics . But not “Making Money Online”

    @Nick- well the blog is influenced me to blog about it

    @manuel- I hope you’re kidding. 🙂

  • http://atheista.net benj

    I haven’t seen their friends defending them yet. Hehe. Where exactly are those sites located, Noemi? hehe

  • http://houseonahill.net Connie

    Are you referring to this blog:
    http://www.carlocab.com/

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @benj-

    charleslau.com/2007/08/10/the-internet-business-is-best-done-by-young-children/

    @connie- obvious ba?

  • http://houseonahill.net Connie

    top of the search results sya if you google 13 year old make money online hahahahaha

    Calling Bantay Bata!!!

  • http://www.tingog.com Nick

    Maybe now, it can be one of the top controversial blog, instead of being influential.. I don’t need that kind of bad influence anyway.

  • http://atheista.net benj

    What did them in was that the father came with the boy a week ago. Tsk.

    Noemi, the link you gave me had a scary header, not to mention logical fallacies. hehe

  • Jess

    the kid should be interviewed on LIVE TV. Let him blog about “monetization strategies” or a random topic of any of the categories in the blog. That’s the real evidence.

  • http://noneed4ink.com Maki

    Now it makes sense. That’s why when I rad that blog months ago when it was still being discovered, it’s like reading a rip off with respect to John Chow’s articles (I tried comparing it with John Chow’s way of writing). I even speculated how would an early teen have interest in going pro with blogging. (My kuya at that age would’ve spent his time with more studies, crushes, and basketball :P)

    Anyways, for parents, please don’t force your children to blog for you…or even *coughs* make money online under your name.

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @connie- is this the responsibility of “Bantay Bata” . Eh the parent will say he knows what is best.

    @Nick- well controversial blogs can be a useful marketing tool.

    @Benj- well you’re the expert in arguments/

    @Jess- true.

    @Maki- I don’t even understand half the contents of that blog . “canonical url”? what is that?

  • emily

    just google the parent. and you will see

    _______will help you start your very own COMPLETE MONEY MAKING WEBSITE that’s 100% ready to capture orders and bring in ENORMOUS PROFITS for you right now … GUARANTEED! Visit: Work At Home

    maybe the father made the site and placed contents from this package.

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @emily- if that is true, then the child blogger should have mentioned that fact. That doesn’t make it right. Still a misrepresentation of some facts.

  • http://silkenhut.com/blog Allen

    hey you should take a look at this, especially at the comments.
    hxxp://www.jozzua.com/2007/04/29/a-13-year-old-problogger-and-his-marketing-tactics/

    haha I replaced “http” with “hxxp” to prevent a trackback.

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @allen- I made my stand. Everyone has their opinion on my entry whether in my favor or not. Anyone can choose to believe it’s the child’s pure writing skills. or otherwise. I believe the child wrote some entries but the very advanced ones are not his.

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  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    Just note the conflicting statements on how the blog got setup

    from Jozzua.com comments:

    @benj – Yes, tama po kayo.. he monitors my blog once in a while but i’m the only one who build it from scratch

    Then an interview with this blog
    adii.co.za/2007/04/30/make-money-online-with-a-13-year-old/

    Yea, I started it only this February 4. With the help of my dad with the set-up.

  • http://jennys-corner.com jennyL

    hmmmm very interesting and poor lil kid being used by his dad kung totoo talaga.. tsktsk

  • http://www.manuelviloria.com/archives/carl-ocabs-ghostwriter/ ManuelV

    Noemi, did you speak with Mr. Alan Ocab regarding this ghostwriting issue before you published this post which practically accuses him publicly of unethical behavior, immorality and child abuse/exploitation?

    (You know, something along the lines of direct questions on authorship, asked face to face, so that you can gauge the sincerity of his answers.)

    If not, have you already spoken with him or his son Carl about your suspicions regarding the authorship of those CarlOcab.com blog posts?

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @ManuelIV- Good you asked that question. But first of all, I never wrote about ghostwriting issue. My post is about the misrepresentation of facts of the blog. You are referring to someone else’s blog post not mine.

    The exploitation issue was not mentioned by me but one of my commenters. In fact, Connie did.

    I talked of ethical standards in blogging.

    Yes , I talked to the boy in that event . We have photos taken together. Bloggers saw me talking to the boy . I spoke twice to the boy .( Dine who was beside me also spoke to the boy. But she will post her observations if she wants to.)

    And his answers confirmed my suspicions. His reply on PPC didn’t match his post on PPC. He couldn’t reply to it. I asked if he could talk about money making online and he evaded the topic and rather talk about blogging tips.

    Then that blogger spoke to the boy but couldn’t get straight answers from the boy so turned to the father.he later on told me that the secret is the dad. (check that quote above)

    I also compared the writing style of the father and the boy. They are similar.

    My entry has basis my dear Manuel. What about you?

    Have you talked to the boy as in real life? Did you ask direct questions about the money making online tips? You only emailed them separately, right?

  • http://www.manuelviloria.com/archives/carl-ocabs-ghostwriter/ ManuelV

    Thanks, Noemi. Glad to see more details here, particularly the one on PPC and writing style.

    In the case of , was he the one who said that the child did the writing (after being taught by the parent)?

    To answer your question: I’ve only emailed Carl and Alan on the issue of who wrote the posts. I didn’t ask them about making money online tips. I haven’t spoken with them yet, although I’ve scheduled a phone conversation with Alan tonight, so I’ll definitely ask about tips.

    So, if ghostwriting/authorship is not the issue here in your post, what facts were misrepresented?

    Ownership of the blog? (“It’s still not the child’s blog.”)

    And that the parent used the child to misrepresent which facts? Carl’s knowledge of PPC?

    What fudged truth were you referring to, Noemi?

  • http://aboutmyrecovery.com Noemi

    @ManuelIV- If you want to make the issue bigger, go on. I was just taking a stand on an ethical issue.

    I cannot speak for Jomar . Ask him yourself.

    Maybe it’s best that you speak to them and judge for yourself.

    Misrepresentation of facts – Like I said I didn’t write about ghost writing per se rather it refers to ownership of blog and authorship of the entries. It says the boy wrote those entries in the about me page. “the guy behind the .com and I give tips to people who wants to make money online via blogging, websites and other methods.”

    Fudged truth means it’s not really the child writing most of the entries especially the more complicated ones e.g. PPC

    I believe the truth will come out eventually and , as the saying goes, will set us free.

  • http://dine.racoma.com.ph SexyMom

    wait, Noemi, i am confused, is this ManuelV you are responding to, the same ManuelV who earlier posted this comment?

    ManuelV:

    Wait… it’s really the teener writing? As in, *all* the posts?

    For the longest time, I thought the parent was the one writing all of the ebiz posts in that blog.

    If the teener was the one who really wrote all those posts, then all I can say is he sure can write!

    Who knows? Maybe he’s the one ghostwriting for his dad. He probably just used his dad’s persona in the past, so that he’d be taken seriously online.

    Later on, he probably realized he was better off just being himself.

    Ahem. 😉
    – – – – –

    I wonder, it seems like he is singing a different tune now. He must have thoroughly interviewed the father-son tandem to make a quick conclusion.

    anyway, i was just wondering. do you remember when during the start of the program in Max’s, we were all asked to introduce ourselves, and tell the audience what we do? Mr Ocab said he was an “events organizer”.

    While google searching his name, I was very surprised to find pages and pages of his Making Money Online type of activities. I wonder why he did not tell us about it at that time?

    Just to put it on record, we talked to Carl. I asked him what the sources are of his writings–he said research and own ideas (wow! i said). i also asked if he goes to school, he said, yes. and again i said, good he still has a lot of time to write, and those are very complicated topics, i told him. i asked how does this pay per click operate, he said “affiliates”. We did not have a real conversation, because he answered only in one or few words, not even sentences.

    This issue has blown to proportions now. I know it is not your intention to hurt anyone, nor was it also my intention when i commented to your and ManuelV’s posts.

    If indeed it is Carl who writes his own articles in his blog, well and good–we have a child wonder in or midst.

    But if it is not him, and it is somebody else writing, well, they can continue fooling people. But really, they can just say the truth, it won’t hurt to tell the truth.

    As I commented in ManuelV’s post – The Marcoses said they did not plunder the Philippines, Erap says, too. Oh yes, there is no evidence. And Filipinos are indeed intelligent.

  • ManuelV

    Thanks, Noemi. My question about- relates to the quote you posted in your entry.

    At any rate, thank you for clarifying your view on whether Carl wrote most of the entries or not.

  • ManuelV

    @SexyMom

    Singing a different tune? Nope…

    From the start I could not believe a teener was writing all those posts. And then I read in Noemi’s post the quote: “The secret of the blog is the parent. The parent taught the child and then the child writes . So it’s really the child writing.”

    That’s the context of my first comment in this post.

    How exactly did my tune change?

    (Looks like my “Ahem ;-)” got skimmed over.)

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